Advertisements There are a lot more than 500 Tivo S1 users who will be left with no service on June 1st. Tivo originally sold over 20,000 units and perhaps up to 30,000 (Thomson made up to nearly 30,000 units but how many were never sold is not known). Anecdotal evidence suggests that at least 35% of them and perhaps up to 50% of them are still use (most of these have a Lifetime Sub since those paying monthly were always under more economic pressure to consider more recent equipment with no monthly subscription). Even the thread in this forum that asked owners still using them to post to confirm their use attracted well over 500 registrations. There are many Tivo owners who were recommended to get them by sons or nephews who never ever visit this forum from one end of the year to the other. Of the 7,000 to 10,000 units still in use at least 50% will be not in Virgin cabled areas. That leaves 3,500 to 5,000 customers with no Tivo service of any flavour at all. Of the 3,500 to 5,000 in Virgin cable land many do not wish to upgrade at this stage because of Virgin's early adopter pricing. £149 for the new box is not bad but still much more expensive than a basic Sky HD box with a lock in sub but the ongoing level of minimum subscription requirement with the XL package is too high to encourage customers on the M or M+ packages to consider upgrading. Without the cancellation of Tivo S1 service most of them would have hung on until they have a new Tivo without that level of subscription commitment. Of course perhaps that is why some senior Virgin sales person leaned on Tivo to cancel the Tivo S1 service as soon as possible........ And finally by the way every one of you smug so and sos who have switched to Windows MCE, Sky HD etc because of your obsession with always using the latest thing (eg HD which is so little different from SD as to be of very marginal benefit as I am reminded every time I visit my sister's house where she has a Sky HD box and an HD widescreen plasma tv) or who are getting a new Virgin Tivo and who smugly say "I think Tivo can't be expected to go on with the S1 service" are simply undermining the efforts of those of us who want to go on receiving Tivo S1 service and who are campaigning with Tivo to that effect.