Goliath (Amazon) series thread *spoilers

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  1. uncdrew

    uncdrew Annie 2.0

    Aug 6, 2002
    Down South


    Season 3 was great.
  2. ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

    Feb 15, 2014
    Los Angeles
    It started out pretty good for me, started to lose me with the mystical crap, then was good for a while with a straightforward legal and political drama. Then it completely lost me with the ending.

    Questions I still have:
    • Is the term "San Joaquin Valley" not politically correct any more?
    • Why did Rochelle Purple not step behind the tree and avoid serious injury?
    • What were Patti and Stephanie doing in Joshua Tree when they were supposed to be headed to Blackwood? It's completely the wrong direction!
    • Why did Diana Blackwood always stop signing in the middle of her conversations with Dario?
    • Do the writers of this show think that watering lawns in Los Angeles is a more moral use of water than growing food?
    • Can a simple billionaire really produce $500 million overnight? Even a two-billionaire?
    • In what part of the valley is Big Sur halfway between Sacramento and almond orchards?
    • Since Billy clearly died at the beginning of episode S3E8, are we to assume the rest of the episode was a fantasy of his cooling brain, as Simone in "The Good Place"?
    I presume Billy has died the true death this season, since a psychic told him early on that he was about to die. Is this the end for Billy McBride?
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2019
  3. smbaker

    smbaker Well-Known Member

    May 24, 2003
    One of the articles I read online said that Wade committed suicide. Did anyone else here interpret it that way? I recall seeing him drink something, get up, stumble as if having a heart attack, and fall over. I was thinking his sister probably poisoned him.

    What did Diana use Littlecrow's severed thumb to retrieve? (I was thinking drugs and/or poison)

    I probably need to rewatch the last quarter or so of the finale. A lot happened in a short amount of time.

    I'm certain Billy isn't dead*, unless Amazon cancels the series due to rating issues... then he's dead. Overall I enjoyed this season, though neither season 2 nor season 3 lived up to the promise of season 1. Season 1 was a colorful legal drama, whereas seasons 2 and 3 are piles and piles of weird ****, with the occasional legal scene thrown in.

    * 1) There was no blood, 2) He's the star of the show, 3) Billy Bob has said he's open to S4 and there are ideas of where to go with it, 4) Billy Bob referred to it as a "death and rebirth". To reuse an overused TV/movie trope, I think she shot him with rock salt.
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2019
  4. purwater

    purwater I make tasty water

    Aug 25, 2005
    SW Virginia
    My wife and I finished season 3 this week. It was tough going through the first half of the season, but picked up in the second half. All the drug induced highs and weird "trips" just took us out of it. When it got back to reality it picked up and we enjoyed the last few episodes. I hope they do a season 4 and it's more like season 1. We really enjoyed season 1 and recommended it to everybody.
  5. jr461

    jr461 Well-Known Member

    Jul 9, 2004
    Northern NJ


    I agree with both of these assessments. Loved season 1, thought season 2 was just OK (if that) and mostly mildly liked this season.

    Great cast but it was pretty slow at times with a minimal amount of legal stuff again. Then at the end everything felt rushed to wrap it all up. I also had no use for those extended hallucinogenic dreams.

    Did anyone else think the brother/sister thing was going to get incestuous? Seemed like it a couple of times.

    If not for BBT I probably would have bailed on both seasons 2 and 3.

    They sure do like spiking drinks out there!
  6. smbaker

    smbaker Well-Known Member

    May 24, 2003
    I absolutely thought that's where it was going. Really creepy, those two.

    This season was form over function. The general atmosphere, acting, casting, etc., was great. The story made almost no sense whatsoever.
  7. speedcouch

    speedcouch Geekneck

    Oct 23, 2003
    North Carolina
    I actually had to stop to see if David Lynch had directed this season because it had such a Blue Velvet/Twin Peaks vibe about the drug sequences. Also the lounge singer was so much like both of those, even to the point of the Roy Orbison song that she was singing in her last scene. I'm pretty sure that was in Blue Velvet.

    Neither my husband or I liked this season. It was just too weird. And the ending was bad. Besides leaving up in the air about whether Billy was dead or not, they never even addressed the Indian guy from the casino being dead in the water shaft.

    Really disappointing from a show I liked a lot in season 1 and 2.
  8. mooseAndSquirrel

    mooseAndSquirrel Well-Known Member

    Aug 31, 2001
    Whatsamatta U
    I was so disappointed in the finale of season 1 that I didn't have enough motive to go onto to S2 or 3.
  9. randian

    randian Active Member

    Jan 15, 2014
    I found it rather odd that Billy doesn't know that retaliatory firing is illegal under California (and I presume most state's) employment law. Blackwood should have been toast the moment that pregnant lawyer threatened everybody's jobs if they participated in Billy's class action.
  10. Dawghows

    Dawghows Liberal Elitist

    May 17, 2001
    We just finished watching this recently, and said the same thing about David Lynch and about Billy finding Joe in the tunnel. Not only did that not lead to anything plot-wise, but Billy didn’t even mention it to Patty and Brittany when he came out of the tunnel. I’m generally not a huge stickler for plot holes or loose details in TV, but that’s a huge oversight.
  11. ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

    Feb 15, 2014
    Los Angeles
    It seemed to me that Billy was aware that Joe in the tunnel might have been an hallucination. He also had other things on his mind at that point.

    In any case, TV characters have a very bad habit of not sharing significant information; it's well-observed part of their culture.

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