Glee | "New York" | OAD 5/24/11

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Lori, May 24, 2011.

  1. hapdrastic

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    Pretty sure they were setting up a "Glee: The College Years" thing here with at least Rachel and Kurt (and probably Finn, following) going to a school in New York. That said, I'd much rather they just start bringing in new people and phasing this cast out when they graduate.
     
  2. That Don Guy

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    1. Presumably, Mr. Shuster felt that, since writing new songs (supposedly) helped them win Regionals, writing more new songs would help them win Nationals.

    2. Sam might be a Sophomore. Actually, I think the first time anybody came right out and said what grade they were in was then Rachel(?) mentioned that next year was graduation. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time a show had somebody on the five-year high-school plan (not counting the original 90210 where Junior year lasted two seasons) - Danny on the original Fame was there for five years.

    3. Didn't Dillon High School win the Texas state championship a few years ago with a Sophomore QB? :) (Also, wasn't the game they won with Kurt as the kicker the only game they won all season, which was one of the reasons they got a new coach?)
     
  3. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Because this is a TV show with the primary purpose of presenting new music each week. Viewers have already heard their Regionals set list and already bought those recordings, so airing them over again would mean a loss of revenue for the show.

    Oh, did you mean in the world of the show? In that case, no reason. I'm sure they'd use the same songs in real life.
    This is always one of the problems with shows about high school kids. It's pretty common for the shows to be non-specific about the ages of the characters in the early seasons, so if the show becomes successful, they can fudge a little and get an extra year or two before graduation. It will be interesting to see if this show follows the original 90210 model of following the same characters into college and beyond, or if they'll follow the Friday Night Lights model of letting the kids graduate and leave the show, while new characters come in and replace them. I hope for the latter.

    What they really should do is introduce a few new kids next season as freshmen, so that after the end of S3 and some of the kids graduate and leave the show, they'll still have some continuity. The problem with that is that the principal cast is already huge and I don't know how many more they can handle and still give them all screen time.

    These shows always think their popularity is based on the stars, and so they're willing to pay the actors increasing amounts of money every year rather than replace them with younger, cheaper actors. I think Glee might be a show that could get away with replacing the actors, since it's much more about the music than it is about the characters. I seriously doubt they'll go that route, though.
     
  4. MarkofT

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    I thought I had read somewhere that the creators original intention was to keep the show at McKinnley and rotate the students through. It was about the time Sam arrived and the commented that he was the start of the next wave of students.
     
  5. jsmeeker

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    I mostly enjoyed it. LOLed at Brittany's song about cups. And loved her positive attitude at the end. (and her comment that she was her own best friend) I too wondered about Quinn's threat. Doesn't make sense she would carry through with it NEXT season. Did we ever see the conversation where she told Finn they should quit? I recall seeing that in a preview, but never in an actual episode. Did I miss it somehow?

    Not surprised that they didn't win. They didn't win the "big" competition at the end of the first season, either. Was "the kiss" the reason they lost? I don't think so. But I guess Santana does. :)
     
  6. 702

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    It's possible. The only cast members who I believe were mentioned to be Juniors this year are Rachel, Finn, Quinn.
     
  7. jsmeeker

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

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    The prom episode seemed to suggest they were ALL Juniors.
     
  8. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I don't think there's any way that Puck is younger than Finn, given that Puck was originally someone who bullied Finn.

    I don't think Santana and Brittany are younger than Quinn, because they all appeared to be the same "class" of Cheerios at the beginning of the series (odd that Quinn was head of a national championship caliber cheer squad as a sophomore.

    I suppose we don't know much about the ages of Artie, Mercedes, Tina, Mike Chang, Zises, or Trouty Mouth. They could easily have been freshmen during S1.
     
  9. sieglinde

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    Rachel was a Junior. Eventually they will have to graduate the entire cast if this goes past four years.

    I could not believe it when they Rachel said she was singing a song from the best musical ever and they sung a song from Wicked. Ugh. Derivative. Not the best musical ever.
     
  10. Jesda

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    Amen, sister. :up:


    [no homo]
     
  11. busyba

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    Linky?

    Once they started the song, I was really looking forward to hearing how they did one particular part at the end:

    Who can say if I've been changed for the better?
    I do believe I have been changed for the better
    And because I knew you...​

    On the second line, there's a really cool harmony. On the episode, they totally skipped over only exactly that one line. They did the one before and the one after, but not that one. Grrrr. :(
     
  12. busyba

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    It is a fantastic musical though, and certainly one of, if not the, top one amongst its contemporaries.

    It's not inconcievable for a person in high school today to think of it as the best ever, even a high schooler with a familiarity with Broadway in general.
     
  13. LoadStar

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    All of Glee songs can be heard online at http://www.gleethemusic.com/. They (generally) premiere songs the Friday before the episode airs.
     
  14. IJustLikeTivo

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    I suspect most people, including me, disagree.

    So, what were you expecting that to be? Bearing in mind, this show is aimed at contemporary audiences. Or, ignore the current audience and give me your pick. I'd be interested.

    It isn't the best but it is way up the list.
     
  15. jsmeeker

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    "best ever" of ANYTHING is highly subjective and is always up for debate. (golfer, anybody? ;) )

    that said, Wicked it good. It's also the only "Broadway" musical I have seen. (I actually saw it in Los Angeles). So,I guess, for me, it is "Best Ever" :) And you make a good point about it needing to be contemporary. It's a current high school student proclaiming it. NOT someone who is 40 or 60 or whatever.
     
  16. markz

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    I have only seen (traveling versions of) Cats, Phantom of the Opera, and Wicked. Story wise, I loved Wicked, but musically, I preferred Cats or Phantom.
     
  17. IJustLikeTivo

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    I like Webber, he writes great tunes but not great musicals. I've seen all three on the road and on broadway, there is a difference in the staging and talent.

    Webber is a great producer and his shows are fun to experience and as much as I like his music, I don't see him on the same class as say Rogers and Hammerstein to name one that comes to mind as writing better musicals it not better tunes.
     
  18. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    :up: Exactly what I was thinking. Along with all the other age/grade inconstancies we have seen in various tv shows.
     
  19. JYoung

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    Did we see any students graduate from Walt Whitman High School?
     
  20. sieglinde

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    That is fair. I found the music to be derivative, meaning I felt I had heard it somewhere else before. In a choir I was in, we had sung a medly of about five of the songs. (would make a good Glee piece) and I felt that I had heard it all in different musicals in my life. I have not seen the musical. It may be great as far a story etc. Rogers and Hammerstein anything comes to mind. It would be hard to say best, but I know this is not the best. I guess to a teenager, this would be. Chicago, for example, had more original songs in it.
     

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