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Get TV code info back OFF a TiVo remote?

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by CIR-Engineering, Oct 5, 2018.

  1. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    I don't think "Remote Manufacturer Code" is the TV code you're looking for. I think it's just some code for who actually made the Tivo remote. My Roamio running Hydra has no such field, but has "Remote Type/Mode" instead and shows "SlidePro".
     
  2. Edmund

    Edmund Remote Czar TCF Club

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    Is this tv/dvd combo? If so try codes 0126 or 0142.
     
  3. ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

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    What I meant was that your TV RF can't be programmed into your TiVo remote. For example, I have a new Samsung TV that came with an RF-only remote; my TiVo Slide and my Harmony remotes couldn't learn its IR commands nor control the TV by RF.

    The only thing that knows the TV code to IR translation is the remote; it would seriously complicate remote to add circuits and programming to upload the current code to the TiVo, and it would require a new remote to replace the existing ones, which wouldn't help OP at all. (As am aside, consider the fact that the RF reporting of the remote status in the current TiVo firmware is completely broken.)

    (Every time I set up a device that requires any significant configuration I create a Evernote entry and record things I might need to redo the configuration. I can tell you the codes I have programmed into my TiVo remotes for all the TVs I have owned since I bought my first TiVo. But I also take weekly automated backups of every computer I own onto a NAS server, so I might not be the typical user.)
     
  4. CIR-Engineering

    CIR-Engineering Video Calibration & Electronics Repair Engineer

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    It's just a TV, not a combo.

    Thanks,
    craigr
     
  5. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    @ej42137, I think we have our wires crossed. All we're talking about in this thread is send one value, the Tivo device setup code for IR control of the TV, i.e., 0008, via bluetooth to display on the info screen as another parameter like battery level, probably 2 bytes max. We're not talking about any RF control of anything at all.

    And consider this is just a fantasy. I don't expect Tivo to ever actually do this. But knowing what I know about the inner workings of remotes, it should be very simple. The setup code is typical stored in a fixed, 2-byte location in memory. Whatever status data strings the remote is sending today, those 2 bytes could be copied and appended. No new circuits, just a couple more lines of code.

    What I'm saying Dish does is transmit the IR codes (typically 30 bytes or so) from the box to the remote. Even $1 cable TV remotes have enough memory to store a couple hundred "custom" IR codes. I'm not suggesting Tivo do this at all. I'm just using it as an example to show that it's possible to send lots more data to/from a remote.
     
  6. ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

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    That four digit code is programmed into the remote, not the TiVo. There is no facility to update the firmware of the remote to implement such a feature. If you think TiVo should have done it this way when they designed the RF remote, I think that's way low on the list of things TiVo should have done. I doubt they'd have gotten the programming right, since they can't even get the remote power level indicator to work.

    Consider that such a feature would only be useful to people with off-brand TVs. For most people, if they forgot what code they entered the list of codes they need to try is just the ones listed for their brand of TV.
     
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  7. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    I give up.
     
  8. CIR-Engineering

    CIR-Engineering Video Calibration & Electronics Repair Engineer

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    I don’t blame you.

    It would have been easy for TiVo to have had some sort of way to get codes off the remote via LED blinks or from an info screen through RF. I suspect they could probably add it to the info screen now if they cared to.

    Best,
    craigr
     
  9. ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

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    I am very disappointed in you. Did Columbus give up when he was bringing smallpox to the the New World?
     
  10. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    Goldstar is now LG
     
  11. CIR-Engineering

    CIR-Engineering Video Calibration & Electronics Repair Engineer

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    I’ll give LG a try, but I have my doubts the code will ever be known ;-)

    craigr
     

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