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Get TV code info back OFF a TiVo remote?

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by CIR-Engineering, Oct 5, 2018.

  1. Oct 5, 2018 #1 of 51
    CIR-Engineering

    CIR-Engineering Video Calibration & Electronics Repair Engineer

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    I have one oddball TV that isn’t in the TiVo remote database. The only way I can get the TiVo remote to work on the TV is to perform the lengthy TV code search (and I do find one eventually). Is there any way to find out what code the TiVo remote is using so that I can just plug the code in directly the next time I want to program a different TiVo remote?

    I think not, but thanks for any help!
    craigr
     
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  2. Oct 5, 2018 #2 of 51
    Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    I've wished for a TiVo website listing as well (and a way to use the listed codes).
     
  3. Oct 6, 2018 #3 of 51
    scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    If you provide the brand of your tv, I'd bet that someone here could tell you which other brand(s) use the same codes and are likely listed in the remote setup guide.
     
  4. Oct 6, 2018 #4 of 51
    scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    But be patient, with this being a weekend things get slow here because many members don't read these forums anywhere but at work.
     
  5. Oct 6, 2018 #5 of 51
    krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Mail the programmed remote to @mdavej as he probably has some gear/utility that can receive and decode the raw IR signal, and then associate that with the needed 4-digit code.


    (Yes, but it was mostly intended just to light the Bat Signal to alert @mdavej.)
     
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  6. Oct 6, 2018 #6 of 51
    mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I can decode the signal. No, there is no way to find out the code from the remote. I like scandia's idea though.

    Cable and satellite TV remotes made by UEI do have a code blink back feature that uses the LED to reveal the code it's using. Unfortunately the Tivo remote can't do that. Best we can do is trial and error or IR signal analysis.

    What I can do without having your remote is you tell me the make/model of your TV like scandia said, and I can probably narrow your search considerably.
     
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  7. Oct 6, 2018 #7 of 51
    ggieseke

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    I can capture and interpret IR codes, but that still doesn't translate them back into TiVo 4-digit remote codes for a TV unless somebody else out there has taken the time to capture and analyze every possible code. The IR database that they use does include the raw data for controlling cable or satellite boxes on a Series 2 or earlier device via an IR blaster, but it doesn't include the remote codes used to control a TV because it's just a list of brands and code numbers that are hard-coded into the remote itself.
     
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  8. Oct 7, 2018 #8 of 51
    CIR-Engineering

    CIR-Engineering Video Calibration & Electronics Repair Engineer

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    The "brand" is TRUTECH which is an off brand that Target uses. The model is 008-09-0115 manufactured in March 2008.

    Through my research all Target does is take another TV and put a TRUTECH label on it. My research also indicates that TRUTECH is most commonly made by Daewoo, but I have tried TiVo's codes for Daewoo and none work :( So the TV could have been made by any manufacturer. I have two TiVo remotes that are currently programmed to the TV so I could send one to you mdavej (thanks for the offer). Could you please PM me your address and I'll decide if it's worth the cost of shipping?

    I can do this here as well, but like you say, knowing the hex doesn't give me the TV code for the TiVo remote. mdavej, if I send you the hex codes for power, volume +/-, and input, can you tell me the TiVo remote code with the info without having me send the remote?

    Thanks guys!
    craigr
     
  9. Oct 7, 2018 #9 of 51
    CIR-Engineering

    CIR-Engineering Video Calibration & Electronics Repair Engineer

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    This was what I was hoping for. I called TiVo tech support and they said no, but I figured someone here might have a better answer ;) Guess not!

    craigr
     
  10. CIR-Engineering

    CIR-Engineering Video Calibration & Electronics Repair Engineer

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    FWIW this is just the kitchen TV and I actually found it in the trash... I did buy an original remote for it off eBay. mdavej, could you find the TiVo code using the original remote or do you need the TiVo remote? What is required to read the code off the TiVo remote? I could most likely do it here myself as I have access to loads of programmers and the like in my shop.

    Thanks again,
    craigr
     
  11. mdavej

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    I use a custom built device called IR Widget that I got about 10 years ago in conjunction with IR Scrutinizer software. These days, if you don't build your own, you can use the following, among others:
    - Global Cache, IR Toy, LIRC, Girs, Command Fusion and phone or Arduino based IR devices

    If you want to build a device, here are a number of circuit designs you could use:
    IR Widget - Consumer infrared remote control capture and visualization

    If I knew the make/model of your remote, I would try to find it in the Logitech, Golbal Cache or UEI database and cross reference by brand to recommend some Tivo codes to try from the brand list you see on your TV during remote setup. Best I can do is narrow your search. I can't find an exact match directly due to the reasons ggeiseke mentioned (Tivo codes are unknown), even if you gave me the hex codes, without a lot more time and effort.

    For me to find an exact match, I'd have to try several Tivo codes by trial and error and analyze them, hence only transferring all the time and effort from you to me. I'm a nice guy, but not that nice. I'll give you whatever I'm able to find in about 5 minutes given the make/model info. I'm not willing to spend much more time than that. But since I know where and how to look, I can get a lot farther than most could in the same 5 minutes.
     
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  12. CIR-Engineering

    CIR-Engineering Video Calibration & Electronics Repair Engineer

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    Thanks for the info and offer. I’ll see what I can do and let you know. May be easier to just do the extended code search with the TiVo remote for the unusual times I need to ;)

    Kind regards,
    craigr
     
  13. mdavej

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    Sure thing. FYI, my own solution to this is to never use a Tivo remote at all. My universals do far more, and I never have to go through these searches.
     
  14. waynomo

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    A search on the internet says Funai manufacturers them. That was from 2009 around the manufacture date of yours.
     
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  15. Mikeguy

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    And, lo and behold, Funai is listed under the TiVo remote setup screen, with codes 0033 and 0045. Now, if they only would work . . . .
     
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  16. Edmund

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    Try the Goldstar codes, like 0128.
     
  17. kpeters59

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    Or Insignia.

    -KP
     
  18. mdavej

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    Oops. I totally missed the post where you finally posted the make/model. In the Global Cache database, Trutech uses Emerson protocol, device 41 or NEC2, device 138 (much less likely). It's UEI setup code TV 0171 or AUD 1128 (that's mostly for Edmund to cross reference). I see that many brands use this code, but I think Emerson would be the best place to start.

    See if either of these hex codes for power matches yours (doesn't have to match exactly):
    0000 006F 0000 001A 0081 0081 0020 0061 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0061 0020 0020 0020 0061 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0061 0020 0020 0020 0061 0020 0061 0020 0020 0020 0061 0020 0020 0020 0061 0020 0061 0020 0061 0020 0061 0020 0061 0020 0020 0020 050D

    0000 006D 0000 0022 0156 00AA 0015 0015 0015 003F 0015 0015 0015 003F 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 003F 0015 003F 0015 0015 0015 003F 0015 0015 0015 003F 0015 003F 0015 003F 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 003F 0015 003F 0015 003F 0015 003F 0015 003F 0015 003F 0015 003F 0015 003F 0015 05E9
     
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  19. Edmund

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    UEI tv code 0171 matches TiVo code 0008.
     
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