Game of Thrones "Winter Is Coming" 4/17/11 *spoilers*

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Aniketos, Apr 18, 2011.

  1. Fleegle

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    Between the scene with the arrow and the scene when the king arrived when she was running around with a helmet on, I got that tomboy vibe.

    Potential spoiler regarding info from IMBD:
    The kid who plays Bran is listed as appearing in 9 episodes, more than anyone else. Isn't he the kid who got pushed from the tower window at teh end of this episode?
     
  2. firerose818

    firerose818 Now 65 pounds less! TCF Club

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    Yes, that is the same kid. ;)
     
  3. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    Oh, sure, but if I talk about an event in the book which is concurrent with the episode thread I'm in, but they've changed something, then how do I discuss that without spoiling the books for someone if I can't use spoiler tags?

    The logical conclusion is, we'll have to have two threads for every episode, one for the people who have only seen the show which talks only about the show, and one which talks about both book and show, for those who have read the books and are watching the show, or have done one form or the other and don't care if the other form is spoiled.

    It's awkward. Sucks that the spoiler tags don't work reliably on mobile devices.
     
  4. atrac

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    My co-worker and I watched it through our lunch hour. He was VERY bored and I was actually quite interested.

    He figured out that they were siblings and I had no idea. LOL
     
  5. Aniketos

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    I tried making a happy hour one for book/show and had one other person come in and make a post. So I guess that didn't garner enough interest.
     
  6. Incognito

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    I would recommend re-watching the episode ... they're are things said and shown that I missed from whether a sneeze, dog distraction, or people.

    Even better second time around.
     
  7. SurvivorFan

    SurvivorFan & TiVo Loyalist

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    is it...
    Downloaded the book yesterday. In for a penny, in for a pound. :)
     
  8. supham

    supham Slow Member

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    Does anyone know far into the books the first series goes? Will it be one series per book? I'm thinking of starting the books but I do not want the series to outpace my reading...

    Or is this just a bad idea.
     
  9. TAsunder

    TAsunder Debates Ghee vs Gi

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    I'm guessing I'm in the minority here due to my overall position on the book+show. I thought the first book was mediocre at best - definitely overrated. It just was not that enthralling or interesting. I am a fan of the genre in general and found this to be just another random fantasy novel. I never bothered with the subsequent novels. The pacing was off in large sections of the novel, and the writing style was fairly flat. Part of it may be that I had just finished with a Gene Wolfe series and no one really holds a candle to Wolfe, but I don't think that entirely explains my reaction. I've been looking forward to the show nonetheless because a show that closely followed this middling fantasy novel would still be a lot better than most of what we have ever seen in the fantasy genre on tv or in movies.

    I thought the first episode of the show was very good. The cinematography and sets were breathtaking. Many characters who were boring in the novel felt more vibrant in the show. One thing they did well is handling the romance novel-esque porn scenes that are prevalent in the novel and in the fantasy genre in general. They did not seem as prolonged or celebratory as they felt in the novel at times when such was not appropriate for the tone.

    I thought they did an excellent job of using editing to give clues about how the stories were intertwined. My wife has never read the novel and was able to follow the story. And she liked it quite a bit as well.

    Overall I was very impressed with the show.
     
  10. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    The first season is the first book. They may break up future books into multiple seasons...the books get pretty long as the series progresses.

    George RR Martin's hope is that Book 3 will be two seasons, and that Books 4 & 5 (which were original one book) would be recombined, and then split into three seasons.

    I think it's better to spoil the series by reading the books than to spoil the books by watching the series. The books are much richer, deeper, and more complicated.
     
  11. Fleegle

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    I liked the first episode enough to want to read the book, or listen to the audiobook. I have some Audible credits that have gone unused or awhile, so I used one for A Game of Thrones last night and started it on the way to work. So far, the writing is a little plodding, but I'm only about a half hour into a 34 hour audiobook. Exposition can be bard to get through at times.

    I think having a little character knowledge from the first episode of the series is helping a lot at this point.

    This frost season is what, 10 episodes? Have they announced the number of episodes for Season 2?
     
  12. Incognito

    Incognito Undercover Papa

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    Ive read these books a few times and when I heard about Game Thrones on HBO - I decided to listen to the audiobooks instead. Roy Dotrice, who coincidently plays Grand Maester Pycelle in the TV show, does a great job reading the audio books.

    He does not read for Feast of Crows (a lot of people hope he will) but John Lee or Ted Stoddard have. (i like Lee)
     
  13. Aniketos

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    He actually had to drop out of that role for health reasons. Normally, I prefer my audiobooks to have different actors play different roles, as opposed to one reader doing voices, but I think he does the best job of it, although listening to the sex scenes with him doing both voices was cringe worthy. (I blame Martin for 80% of it though, since he writes sex scenes like a virgin writing fan fiction)
     
  14. Incognito

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    Oh I didn't know that. Too bad.

    Hilarious! I agree with Dotrice reading those parts. -cringe-
    I liked the way The Wheel of Time book are handled - with Kate Reading doing the female POV, Michael Kramer reading the male POV.
     
  15. JETarpon

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    Dotrice and Lee are two of my favorite audiobook readers. I'm listening to The Dreaming Void right now, with Lee reading.
     
  16. stellie93

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    I had no idea what this show was, but when I saw the thread go to 4 pages, I checked it out. Also had no idea there were books. It was a little confusing, although I thought it was made clear that the cute guy was the Queen's brother. I don't have many names, but it's starting to make sense. Overall, it was pretty good.

    In the beginning when they saw the white walkers (?) I was getting a zombie vibe, but then after that it was all just royal intrigue. Are we getting back to some supernatural stuff?

    How big of a problem is this? Couldn't people just stay away from this particular thread on their mobile? I like some inside knowledge from people who have read the books.
     
  17. dandrewk

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    Hint: The subtitle of series and the slogan of House Stark: "Winter is coming."
     
  18. JETarpon

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    Having read the series a couple times, I have to say that your hint doesn't in any way actually answer the question.

    Winter comes every couple decades. The white walkers, not quite so often.
     
  19. dandrewk

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    No, winter does not come every couple of decades. The seasons are highly irregular, the only pattern being that a long summer portends a long winter. The story takes place near the end of an exceptionally long summer.

    Thus, "winter is coming" is ominous. The white walkers cannot exist in a warm climate, so a long, hard winter favors them. Even more ominous is their sudden reappearance after centuries.

    "Song of Ice and Fire" - Ice (white walkers) and the only thing that can "kill" them - fire (dragons). I think we see the importance of Dany exists beyond whatever ancestral rights to the throne may be.
     
  20. ronsch

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    Your first paragraph describes me exactly. While my subscription to HBO is not at risk one way or the other the "let's see how many people we can eviscerate" sub-genre isn't exactly my cup of tea. I almost stopped watching before the end but there was nothing that pulled me away from watching. I'll at least give the second episode a chance.
     

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