Game of Thrones "Winter Is Coming" 4/17/11 *spoilers*

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  1. Apr 19, 2011 #41 of 147
    cheesesteak

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    I wonder if this is a Comcast/HBO thing because the closed captioning works well on every other non-HBO show and movie I watch. It's not like this show is live. Even if the typist sucks they still had lots of time to fix things.

    I didn't know that the queen and her lover were twin brother and sister. Yikes! I'm surprised the Parents Teachers Council hasn't condemned this series yet.
     
  2. Apr 19, 2011 #42 of 147
    madscientist

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    Our CC was ridiculous. Half-sentences, even half-words, chopped and mangled, and much of the text was in odd cursive fonts and with strange background colors (purple rather than black etc.) Looked more like garbage than CC. I didn't need it anyway but still...

    I didn't have too much trouble following the plot. The only thing I got confused about, embarrassingly enough, was whose bastard Jon Snow was... I somehow didn't get it at first (although I figured it out soon enough). Do we know who his mother is? All the rest seemed pretty clear.
     
  3. Apr 19, 2011 #43 of 147
    billypritchard

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    Answer based on this episode? No.

    Answer based on the book series?
    No. There are several theories.
     
  4. Apr 19, 2011 #44 of 147
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    It's spelled out on the HBO web site that shows a family tree. I highly recommend the site for those having problems figuring out how every one is related in all the families.
     
  5. Apr 19, 2011 #45 of 147
    pmyers

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    I didn't realize they were brother and sister as well.
     
  6. Apr 19, 2011 #46 of 147
    Aniketos

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    Interesting that they went with her. One of the biggest mysteries of the books is who is his mother. In the books, two people are mentioned by many different characters so it's up in the air (Wylla is one of them.) The fan community has come up with at least a third one as well. George R.R Martin has said that we will find out who the mother is by the conclusion of the story, so it's assumed that we don't definitely know who she is. One thing you learn quickly in this series is that you don't believe something until you see it, characters lie or unwittingly spread false rumors. One of the interesting things of the book being POV is watching something happen, then hearing how the events have changed due to rumor embellishment from people that never saw it happen in another POV chapter.
     
  7. Apr 19, 2011 #47 of 147
    murgatroyd

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    (book spoilers removed by request)
     
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    astrohip

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    First, I'm (pleasantly) surprised how strong the numbers were--4.2 million. I had heard some early (and disappointing) results that said something around 2.5 million. Maybe they added all three airings together.

    Second, there was no way this isn't renewed. And quickly. HBO wants to keep the viewers, and any doubt about a second season could possibly have led to viewer defections. A quick renewal sends a message that they are in it for the long haul, and so should the viewers.

    Plus, just like "Rome", HBO spent a ton of money on this, and a 2nd season amortizes those costs over more episodes. All in all, renewal was a no-brainer.

    Still good to hear though! :)
     
  10. Apr 19, 2011 #50 of 147
    dandrewk

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    I have a hunch that the identity of Jon Snow's mother will be of major importance as the new books are released. Even if the name on the HBO website is correct, we don't know that much about her.

    My theory: (major spoiler for those who haven't read the books)

    Daenerys will be needing a husband during/after she retakes her kingdom. Most likely it will be a Stark. With Robb no longer around (we think...), Brandon/Rickard are possibilities, but are a bit young for Dany. Jon Snow is a very heroic and sympathetic character thusfar, so he would be perfect. I suspect his mother is of some great lineage and will be a surprise. After all, would Ned EVER sleep with just anyone?
     
  11. Apr 19, 2011 #51 of 147
    astrohip

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    That's really odd. For me to have no problems (Comcast Houston), and other Comcast subscribers to have major difficulties.:confused:

    I did have some problems with Camelot this past Friday (Starz?). About the first 15 minutes, the captions were 15-20 seconds EARLY. I would see the captions, and then attempt to remember the gist when that scene finally played out. Harder than it sounds.:eek: I recorded a couple later showings, as sometimes it's the first showing that has CC problems, and later they get cleared up. Nope. Every showing had problems. (I just thought of something, and this may work for y'all with GoT CC problems: I may try to record it on one of the SD sister-channels. Maybe it's only the HD broadcast that has CC problems?)
     
  12. Apr 19, 2011 #52 of 147
    dandrewk

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    I too have had lots of CC probs with Comcast. Some shows are perfect, others are useless. I didn't use it with GOTT.

    Those of you who have the garbled CC: Did you use a TiVO? If so, did you try (if possible) the Comcast boxes (DVR or not)?
     
  13. Apr 19, 2011 #53 of 147
    JETarpon

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    This isn't really the place, but....

    Jon has taken the black. I don't think he would set it aside.

    Not to mention
    Jon's mother is of great lineage: Lyanna Stark. His father is also of great lineage: Rhaegar Targaryen. This I believe.
     
  14. Apr 19, 2011 #54 of 147
    Incognito

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    Its always hard to track who's who when they are all in one place. Pretty soon everyone will split-up and head to separate locations. They will all have their own stories to follow. Then it will be a lot easier to track who's who.

    Including, all the new characters we havent met yet. ;)
     
  15. Apr 19, 2011 #55 of 147
    JETarpon

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    Just wait.
     
  16. Apr 19, 2011 #56 of 147
    dandrewk

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    All good theories, and nobody knows for sure, but:

    Jon has already deserted the night's watch. He may not have completely forsaken the black, but these are extraordinary times. And after all, finding out his true lineage would change things.

    Also - I don't think we know who Jon's mother is. There has been third party speculation, but it has been left purposely vague. A real mystery. Stay tuned. :)

    btw, I think this is the proper place for this, as long as we use spoilers.
     
  17. Apr 19, 2011 #57 of 147
    astrohip

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    More info... from TVLine and Michael Ausiello:

    Some interesting ratings info, esp the growth in True Blood ratings:
    [sorry for the poor C&P formatting]
     
  18. Apr 19, 2011 #58 of 147
    dandrewk

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    It will be interesting to see how GOTT does in future showings. Besides the sterling reviews, it seems word of mouth is very high.

    Don't forget HBO is competing with a couple other current "dungeons and dragons" type genre series on Showtime and Starz. Odd they all come out the same time. The other two have been rather boring or blase. Maybe more will tune in when they hear GOTT is a lot better than the other two.
     
  19. Apr 19, 2011 #59 of 147
    hapdrastic

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    Why does everyone keep abbreviating it GOTT, isn't it just Game of Thrones?
     
  20. Apr 19, 2011 #60 of 147
    hapdrastic

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    Careful, if Martin continues at his current trend we'll never see the end of the book series.
     

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