Game of Thrones "Two Swords" 4/06/14 S4E1

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  1. Apr 6, 2014 #1 of 295
    astrohip

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    Great start to the season.

    Reminder that individual episode threads are for discussion of the TV episode only. No book discussion. Someone will start a thread where the books can be discussed, along with any and all spoilers.

    Edit: Decided to go ahead and create the Book/TV thread:
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=516317
     
  2. Apr 6, 2014 #2 of 295
    Shaunnick

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    The destruction of Ice and the retrieval of Needle. The two swords.

    The cannibalism displayed by the Thenns was way too obvious before they showed the cooking arm. They were still pretty bad ass, though.

    Joffrey is still a dick.
     
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    6079 Smith W

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    Sandor "Leeroy Jenkins" Clegane: at least he has chicken.

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU[/media]
     
  4. Apr 6, 2014 #4 of 295
    Jstkiddn

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    Arya really seemed to enjoy her revenge. ::shudder::

    Good episode. Very glad it's back!
     
  5. Apr 7, 2014 #5 of 295
    vertigo235

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    Ice was also melted down into two swords.
     
  6. Apr 7, 2014 #6 of 295
    gweempose

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    I'm confused about who the guy was that was showing Dany the various flowers. Is he the same guy who joined her last season when he brought her the two heads of his former comrades? If so, I guess they must have recast the part.
     
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    john4200

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    Yes and yes. Ed Skrein -> Michiel Huisman
     
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    smbaker

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    Meh. This one felt kind of slow to me.

    I did like the retrieval of Needle.

    Did they change something about Jaime Lannister's appearance (other than his armor)? I almost didn't recognize him. Something with his hair, perhaps?

    I'm looking forward to what this prince from Dorne will stir up in King's Landing. Maybe he'll provide some good plot material for Tyrion.
     
  9. Apr 7, 2014 #9 of 295
    DevdogAZ

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    His hair is now significantly shorter than it was for the last couple seasons.

    This was mostly a place-setting episode, as should have been expected. They just need to reacquaint us with what's going on and start things in motion.

    I'm always confused about timing in this show. Tyrion said it had been weeks since he'd been married to Sansa, or maybe weeks since she learned of the death of her mother and brother. But then they show Arya riding on the Hound's horse having a conversation you wouldn't have if you'd been riding that same way for weeks. And how long ago was it that Winterfell was sacked and burned? Yet the last shot of the episode shows fires still raging. What kind of fires just burn for months at a time like that?
     
  10. Apr 7, 2014 #10 of 295
    john4200

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    What did you see that made you think that was Winterfell? :confused:
     
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    cheesesteak

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    I'd marry Arya Stark if she weren't an underaged fictional character.
     
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    DUDE_NJX

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    No objections to the cold blooded murderer part? ;)
     
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    Gunnyman

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    I saw it in the opening sequence with the model areas.
     
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    Anubys

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    What an evil touch for Tywin to add Direwolf pelt to the swords. The man never ceases to amaze me.

    I was surprised that Arya didn't grow at all between seasons. The Red Priestess was right, Arya is a killer. The Hound is in for a surprise when he gets to The Veil.

    I'd love to find out why they changed actors on us.
     
  15. Apr 7, 2014 #15 of 295
    Jstkiddn

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    I'm glad they did. The first guy had a creepy smile.
     
  16. Apr 7, 2014 #16 of 295
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Nah, they're still in the midlands...headed from The Twins (Fry's castles) to The Vale. Hundreds of miles south of Winterfell. (I think maps are really necessary for this show...maybe download a good one of Westeros at least, and keep it at hand so you can tell where things are happening.)

    That scene was designed to drive home the consequences of what Joffrey's men were telling the Hound in the tavern...being Joffrey's men gives them license to do as they please.

    Joffrey may suck at everything, but the thing he sucks at the most is...well, being sane. But the thing he sucks at the second-most is keeping the peace. There was a line early in the show where somebody said something to the effect that when the noblemen play the game of thrones, everybody else just keep their heads low, waits for the war to end, and keep paying their taxes to whoever wins. The war doesn't matter to most people.

    This war, obviously, is different. Everybody's suffering. Everything's burning.

    I was thinking about Joffrey gloating over winning the war, when of course he did no such thing...Robb lost it. Robb may have been great at battles, but he monumentally sucked at ruling...almost every non-military decision he made was terrible, and it was only a matter of time before their cumulative effect caught up with him. And it occurs to me, he was a young Robert Baratheon (great warrior, bad ruler) trying, but failing miserably, to be Ned Stark.

    It also occurred to me that much as Tywin despises Joffrey, Joffrey has a bit of the old man in him. Tywin was certainly gloating (in his own quiet way) over his "victory" over the Starks, but he really had nothing to do with it. He lost battle after battle, and Robb only ended up defeating himself. Joffrey is just the worst qualities of Tywin (and the Lannisters in general) magnified.
     
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    zordude

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    Is that what that was? I thought he was just burning the scabbard that ICE was in.
     
  18. Apr 7, 2014 #18 of 295
    Shaunnick

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    At first I thought that was what the episode title was referring to. Now I see this episode as more about what the Starks have lost, and what they got back. The episode was bookended with the destruction of Ice and Arya getting Needl back. I hope this means things are going to start looking up for the Stark children left alive.

    Who the %$^# am I kidding. This is GoT, there is no way things are looking up for anyone not a Lannister. :D

    Getting Needle back is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but how many viewers shared Arya's smirk as she was riding her new horse with her reclaimed sword in belt.
     
  19. Apr 7, 2014 #19 of 295
    Shaunnick

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    Seriously? Still the fastest hour ion Sunday nights.

    Cleaned him up? Gave him a shave? Haircut? New hand? :D
     
  20. Apr 7, 2014 #20 of 295
    Rob Helmerichs

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    You think things are looking up for the Lannisters?

    They're surrounded by people who hate them (including each other), in a kingdom in chaos. They managed to create a moment when they're on top, but they've caused so much damage in doing so, how can they possibly stay there? It's not a question of whether they'll stay on top, but how fast and how hard they'll fall.
     

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