Game of Thrones "The Kingsroad" 4/24/11 *spoilers*

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  1. Apr 25, 2011 #41 of 128
    pjenkins

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    Loving this show so far, so many ways it can go, and especially like that they aren't afraid to kill things (and hopefully people/characters off as well). One of the reasons I like the Vampire Diaries is they move the story and the characters aren't all safe all the time!
     
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    Tracy

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    I bought the first book on Kindle and will probably start reading it this week. I have a speculation I want to make about a character....the people who have read the book already probably know if my guess is correct or not, but don't tell me, please. I just want to put the guess on the record. :)

    I bet the Snow bastard isn't really Ned's child. I bet it is the King's child (or maybe someone else's) and he had to pay off or kill the mother to keep a secret or stop some challenge to the throne. I am guessing this because it seems so bizarre that Ned would cheat on his wife, based on what we have seen of them. What makes me think I may be wrong is that I think it would have been kinder for him to explain this to his wife rather than make her miserable about it for 17 years. Hmmm. But maybe she does know and she still hates the boy....maybe his mother was an enemy to her? Don't know.
     
  3. Apr 25, 2011 #43 of 128
    JETarpon

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    I've always been infuriated by that scene.

    Sansa is such a *****.
     
  4. Apr 25, 2011 #44 of 128
    JETarpon

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    As to casting, the one character that fits my mental picture almost exactly is Arya.
     
  5. Apr 25, 2011 #45 of 128
    Ereth

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    And she pays for it. Of the surviving Starks, Sansa is arguably in the worst situation. Her life is overturned and destroyed far more than any of the others (at least from the view of what she thinks life is like versus the reality she gets).
     
  6. Apr 25, 2011 #46 of 128
    Anubys

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    There is absolutely no reason why we can't speculate on what happens next. I think anyone who speculates needs to simply state "I have not read the books..."

    with that in mind:

    I have not read the books :) and I totally do not agree with you!

    my speculation: The queen killed the king's son (I think the King's name is Roberts, right?). But Joffry is her brother's son.
     
  7. Apr 26, 2011 #47 of 128
    Ereth

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    Please pay close attention to the story Cersei told Cat about her black-haired son who died, and note that all the surviving children are blonde.
     
  8. Apr 26, 2011 #48 of 128
    murgatroyd

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    Hey! Spoilers! If you are going to discuss things that aren't shown in the episode, then stuff should be tagged. And given that we've already had a request to keep the spoilers down because the tags don't work reliably on mobile devices, it's pretty cold to just toss stuff out in the open like that.
     
  9. Apr 26, 2011 #49 of 128
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Speculation has always been within the rules, as long as it's not based on external (to the show) knowledge.

    In this case, speculators would have to be on the honor system that they haven't read the books. I have, so speculating would be cheating. ;
     
  10. Apr 26, 2011 #50 of 128
    SurvivorFan

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    is it...
    I assume you've read the book then? If so, this is exactly the kind post I don't want.
     
  11. Apr 26, 2011 #51 of 128
    Anubys

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    oh, I did. Hence my speculation. The queen said the boy was dark-haired and looked like the king. This is why I'm guessing that she killed him. And why I'm guessing Joffry is NOT the King's (although, how do you prove that? it's not like DNA testing is possible!).

    what are you talking about? how is this different from a discussion about LOST where we guess what will happen next? I did state that it's speculation and that I have not read the books. I did not even go to the HBO site to look at the family tree or anything like that...

    ...or what Rob says :)

    on the other hand, speculation is a dangerous business because those who read the books will have to have a lot of willpower to stop from commenting on crazy/spot on speculation. So I can see why this can be a problem. I do propose that anyone making a speculation should make it clear that they have not read the books (which I did mention)
     
  12. Apr 26, 2011 #52 of 128
    dandrewk

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    I have read the books, so I can tell you a lot of the speculation the non-book readers have may... or may not have been answered.

    That vague enough? ;)
     
  13. Apr 26, 2011 #53 of 128
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    I thought it odd that the girls went along too. And I never heard them discuss who was going other than the fact that for some reason his wife couldn't go--and that was before Bran's fall. Is that just because she has to run things at Winterfell? Only after all the fuss about being separated, now she's going. :confused:

    I thought I was getting the names down, but who's Dany? Is it pronounced Danny?

    One question from the first ep. Why did Ned have to kill the guy who saw the white walkers? At the time I thought he was just an enemy, but he was one of the Night Watchers? Was he a criminal who was sent there, and was killed because he deserted?

    This is an awesome show. So glad I found it. I don't know why, but I'm always quicker to cry when an animal dies than a person. :confused:
     
  14. Apr 26, 2011 #54 of 128
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    Dany is Daenyerys Targaryen, the silver haired girl forced to marry Khal Drogo. It's pretty tough to get everyone down because they have introduced so many character but then it gets more confusing by people having nicknames.

    Ned had to execute the guy who saw the white walkers because he deserted the Night Watchers. Desertion is a crime punishable by death. No one believed his reason for deserting because white walkers haven't been seen for thousands of years and everyone assumes they are just a myth.
     
  15. Apr 26, 2011 #55 of 128
    Anubys

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    not only that, but when she was there, she refused to run the place!
     
  16. Apr 26, 2011 #56 of 128
    Aniketos

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    Previously mentioned, but I'll redo it cause they really didn't explain it.


    Jon, goes to the wall, so he's a moot point.
    Ned goes because he's Hand of the King now, so he has to be in King's Landing.
    Sansa goes because she's now betrothed to Joeffry.
    Arya goes (and this is where it not even attempted to be explained in the show) Ned and Cat think that if she goes to the court, she'll become less of a tomboy.
    Bran was supposed to go, but has to stay because (obviously) he's in a coma.
    Robb stays, to be in charge of Winterfell. since he's the heir (A Stark must always remain in Winterfell.)
    Cat stays to council Robb, and take care of Bran. It makes more sense in the book, because Robb is only 14, as opposed to 17 in the show. Now that's shes shown that she has zero desire to run the place (especially now that she's suspicious of the Lannisters) and Bran is awake, she is free to go to King's Landing to warn Ned about the twice attempt on Bran's life.
    Rickon, is useless is too young to travel with them, he's 3 in the book (6 in the show), so in theory Cat has to watch over him, but since she needs to covertly go to King's Landing, only she and Rodrik Cassel (The dude with the awesome facial hair in the Godswood) are going.

    Interesting to note, (slightly different than what you're talking about but I think its a point to make) that while many people have your reaction (myself included) so do people in the world. The butcher's boy's death (a commoner) is less impactful than Lady's, even for members in that world.
     
  17. Apr 27, 2011 #57 of 128
    Incognito

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    Agreed ... this should be spoiler tagged. :eek:
     
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    Bob Coxner

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    Every time I see her I can only think of Laura San Giacomo's character in The Stand. It's the albino hair.
     
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