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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by DreadPirateRob, Mar 17, 2015.
Well, that escalated quickly.
Well, this thread looks like it's quickly becoming obsolete. Lets see if we can track the changes from the books:
Jaime going to Dorne
Jaime enlisting Tyrion's old sellsword. (not sure of name)
Littlefinger and Sansa leaving the eyrie
Brienne finding Sansa and little finger
With Jon getting elected lord commander this early in the season, I'm thinking he'll "die" in the season finale.
I think the thread will still be useful. No one wants to hear how it happened in the books, so we can discuss all changes here. Brienne has now found both Arya and Sansa, and both of them have told her to **** off. Pod's right, she should just move on.
One wonders, if Ned Stark was told in a prophecy that going to King's Landing would mean his death, the downfall of House Stark, his five youngest children being spread to the four winds, his eldest child and wife and unborn grandchild brutally murdered, and the nation descending into chaos, if he still would have gone anyway out of his sense of duty and honor.
Somehow, I think he would.
So we will be past book 5 next season? Can't wait. Hope you're right.
(also hope you're right about the quotes)
In the other thread, they are emphasizing that the Faceless Men are assassins. I never think of them that way. Is that their main focus?
Yes. They are an assassin's guild that charges exorbitant prices. In the first book, during (I believe) Eddard's first meeting of the Small Council, they are discussing whether to hire a faceless man to take out Dany, Littlefinger objects, saying you could hire an army of sellswords for half the price.
I was so focussed on the scene being new from the book that it didn't even occur to me that it might have been nice if Brienne gave Sansa a heads up that her sister was alive and well.
The Crossroads Inn sure sees a lot of action...
The owner must have made a deal with the Devil...
Location, location, location.
Or at least a crossroads demon....
But the crossroads demon is just negotiating on the Devil's behalf...
I wish I had been wrong. I don't like this change at all.
I love it. I don't know where Sansa's story is going on the book but I'm happy to see her at least get some screentime.
Your reading comprehension goes to 11! How do remember things like that?
It's too early to comment on the effect of the change, but my gut tells me this is a smart move.
Pure conjecture: GRRM spent a ton of words on the machinations of the Bolton/Winterfell/marriage story lines. Chapter after chapter, and we still have no idea where it leads. He'll probably spend another dozen chapters on it before we finally get to his ultimate goal/point. Which may or may not have anything to do with the endpoint of the series. As a book, this is fine. Readers read, and enjoy the journey.
But for the TV series, not only do the showrunners not have near enough time to follow all this, it ultimately (probably) doesn't matter, and almost certainly only serves to confuse viewers. The TV series has done what seems to be an excellent job of condensing these books into a manageable story, moving stories along much more quickly than the books do. Leaving out gobs of extraneous material makes for a much more watchable show.
Again, we don't know where this plot line leads, so it's hard to say what effect this change will cause. But I got faith. And anything that keeps Sansa in the spotlight is better than the alternative.
Well, this tells me that GRRM has told the show runners that the plan all along is for a stark to be back at winterfell. In the books there's an imposter there, but I'm guessing it will become moot in future story lines because the Boltons will get run out. Most likely with Ramsey getting killed in the show. Either way, the only way the Boltons stay at winterfell would be if Tommen remains king (which we all know isn't going to happen).
I like the idea that I don't know what is going to happen.
I did like the part where Theon stepped up and tried to save Jane. I hope they work him into the endgame somewhere. Hopefully Littlefinger plans on saving Sansa somehow-- hopefully before she loses too much skin.
The relationship between Tommen and his wife is different from the books. There she treated him more like a younger brother if I remember correctly. I like this better.
Where's Griff? He surely isn't expendable.
I'm still confused about the House of Black and White. I thought in the books they had people coming there to die--was that what happened to the guy who drank from the fountain. People who were sick or felt guilty about something. I didn't get that they did the assassinations. Is that just another branch?
I still can't decide if the Red God thing is good guys or bad guys. Maybe the Red Lady has just corrupted what seems to be a good religion everywhere else????
Sansa going to Winterfell instead of Jeyne Poole tells me that whatever GRRM told the show runners about her story in the books, it's ultimately not important to the overall ending.