Game of Thrones: Season FIVE & (all) Book Discussion ** spoilers **

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  1. Ereth

    Ereth Unemployed Bum

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    I was thinking about that. I think we all want that.

    But George has been pointing out that every time someone is brought back, they aren't the same. It was true for the Lightning Lord, it was true for Lady Stoneheart.

    If it's true for Jon, would we like who he comes back as?
     
  2. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    This was also the first book(s) he wrote that wasn't a self-contained unit. I think he just got in over his head with the plotting...with a novel, you can make it up as you go with a general sense of where you're going, and then go back and re-write. With a series, you're stuck with what you've already published. It doesn't feel like he did a good enough job of planning ahead (hence a trilogy turned into five books turned into seven, and counting)...

    If he had it all to do over again, I suspect he would write an outline for the whole thing before he published the first book. But now he's stuck with the situation he's in.
     
  3. stellie93

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    What is this series? I've seen it referred to in GoT threads, but hesitate to start it since it's always mentioned as sucking in the middle. Is it worth reading? How many books are there?
     
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    Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson
    14 books

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time
     
  5. 3D

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    Wheel of Time. I've never read it, but that's what WOT refers to.

    ETA: john4200 beat me to it with a more detailed answer.
     
  6. astrohip

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    From his blog "Not A Blog"...

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/429752.html
    Entry" "Wars, Woes, Work"
    June 10th

     
  7. Mr. Soze

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    Boo effing hoo. Cut the BS and focus on Winds of Winter. His life is as unfocused as the last books.

    I am not sure I even give a crap about 6 and 7 really. HBO is writing the story for me now, and doing a pretty damn good job. I remember reading 4 and 5 and thinking what crap TV they would be. I can't imagine what the editors took out if all that was left in.
     
  8. unitron

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    So you're talking Winds of Winter in 2017?

    At that rate George and I will both be dead before Dream of Spring hits the shelves.

    And to do justice to all the plot lines he has going so far, I don't think 7 books will be enough.
     
  9. Rob Helmerichs

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    Well, before it was seven it was five, and before it was five it was three, so I'm not holding my breath...
     
  10. Ereth

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    Well, well, well. Things play out.

    Now, does book six come out BEFORE season six, or do we learn these answers on TV with the rest of the people?

    C'mon, George. Book readers are counting on you!
     
  11. astrohip

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    They're already in pre-production on S6. So even if GRRM gets B6 to the printers before next season, the show will be in the can.

    "And that's how butterflies turn into dragons." -- GRRM
     
  12. Ereth

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    Yeah, I'm not worried about that. I know they know where it's going.

    What I'm interested in is - will *I* be able to buy the book and read it before the series starts up again next April?

    Or will this thread no longer serve a purpose as book and TV readers will be equally in new ground?
     
  13. BeanMeScot

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    From the books, the Dothraki have that retirement village for retired Khaleesi. Do you think Dani will wind up there rather than those Dothraki doing something to her?
     
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    I wonder if Drogon flies after her and the new clan will follow her after that.
    So they are setting up Cercei to go medieval on Westeros now that her daughter is dead and she has Mountain back.
    Before Melisandre left with Stannis I always though she would be the one to resurrect Jon. When she left, I assumed that maybe Jon had no chance. But, she is back, so I am pretty sure she will have a part to play in all this. I wonder what she really saw in her flames.

    Was Marcela's death covered in the book?
     
  15. Rob Helmerichs

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    Now we'll need a special thread for people who want to read the books but don't want spoilers from the TV show... :D
     
  16. BeanMeScot

    BeanMeScot Sci-Fi Junkie

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    Melisandre went back to The Wall and she seemed crushed. Did she finally realize that Stannis wasn't the Lord that was fortold by her god? Lord of Light, right?
     
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    Myrcella is alive in the books, if I remember correctly. She was just injured in an attack.
     
  18. BeanMeScot

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    That was in the beginning of the Dorne parts. My guess is that they just skipped that whole thing and what happened to Myrcella last night is what is going to happen to her in the future in the books.
     
  19. Rob Helmerichs

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    Or maybe she realized the outcome she guaranteed if he murdered his daughter wasn't going to happen, and didn't want to be around when he realized that? ;)
     
  20. BeanMeScot

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    In real life, that would be true, but this is fantasy. I'm sure that's what Davros is going to think. We have seen proof multiple times that Rhyllor is quite powerful. I think all the predictions were for the Lord of Light and it has already been noted that Stannis wasn't that guy which would mean that there is another Lord of Light coming and he is the one that is supposed to take Winterfell. A raised from the dead Jon, perhaps? He would be released from his vows with the Night's Watch having died. He will be a free agent if she does raise him.

    If suspicions are correct, he is also a son of a king and rightful heir of Westeros.
     
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