Game of Thrones - S07E04 The Spoils of War 8/6/2017

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  1. Aug 7, 2017 #161 of 385
    Shakhari

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    Jon is Dany's nephew ... I know the Targaryans were (in)famous for marrying their siblings, but I can't see either of them going for it once they find out Jon's parentage.
     
  2. Aug 7, 2017 #162 of 385
    BeanMeScot

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    I can totally see Dany going for it. She was brought up thinking she was going to marry her Brother and being ok with that because that's what Targaryans did. Jon wasn't raised that way. He was, however, raised in a family where the children were brought up knowing that they wouldn't marry for love, they would marry to further the alliance of their house. That's what he would be doing, too, but for the kingdom and not just his house and perhaps with someone he has fallen for. The writing seems to be leaning this way, in spite of their blood relationship.
     
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  3. Aug 7, 2017 #163 of 385
    JoeyJoJo

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    How close do you think Littlefinger could get to Cersei?
     
  4. Aug 7, 2017 #164 of 385
    cheesesteak

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    Maybe a dumb question but... Arya can do the face changing thing but does her height and weight or peoples' perception of her height and weight also change? What's the point of switching to, let's say, Jamie Lannister's face when her body remains at 5 foot tall? this may have been brought up before and I forgot.
     
  5. Aug 7, 2017 #165 of 385
    Rob Helmerichs

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    My theory was (and for now remains) that he will use that knowledge to leverage Dany into accepting him as King in the North, while recognizing her as Queen Everywhere Else.
    That would be a possibility. But I think she's too honorable, or at least honorable enough to accept an alternative that gives her what she wants (mostly) without having to lie about who she is and who Jon is to do it.
     
  6. Aug 7, 2017 #166 of 385
    DevdogAZ

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    When she was wearing Walder Frey's face, she looked just like him - height, weight, everything. So whatever the magic is, it works on more than just the face.
     
  7. Aug 7, 2017 #167 of 385
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Well, technically, we don't know about the weight. When she was Walder, she could have been 6 feet tall and still only weighed 87 pounds. ;)
     
  8. Aug 7, 2017 #168 of 385
    DevdogAZ

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    I don't see it. Jon doesn't want to be King in the North. He feels like it's his duty and he's the only one that fully appreciates the threat from north of the Wall. And he knows the rest of the people in the North don't trust anyone from the South. But if Dany and her dragons were to help protect the North and defeat the Night King, I think then the Northerners would be accepting of Dany as Queen, and I think Jon would be thrilled to hand off those responsibilities and duties if he felt the person he is handing them off to is just and fair and has the support of the other Northern Houses.
     
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  9. Aug 7, 2017 #169 of 385
    DevdogAZ

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    Well, perception of weight. She looked just the same as Walder Frey did, but you are right. The chemical makeup of her body could have changed so that she appeared to be 6' tall but only weighed 6 ounces.
     
  10. Aug 7, 2017 #170 of 385
    LordKronos

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    Wow....you went to all that trouble? You could have just pointed me to my own pictures here:

    Game of Thrones - S07E04 The Spoils of War 8/6/2017

    Sorry you didn't get my joke and wasted your time. I posted those pictures on page 2 of the thread and made all the same observations the 2 of you made. I guess I should have just said smeek!
     
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  11. Aug 7, 2017 #171 of 385
    Dan203

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    I'm going to have to go back and rewatch the whole series during the break. They are referencing things I don't remember from earlier seasons and I want to be ready for the final few episodes.

    This was an excellent episode!! On the edge of my seat through that whole battle. And I wasn't really sure who I wanted to win.
     
  12. Aug 7, 2017 #172 of 385
    Jstkiddn

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    It's amazing the things you pick up on the second viewing. For one thing, you've finally figured out who everyone is, where they're from and how they figure in to the whole scheme of things. The first watch through you are struggling to remember which dirty, scraggly looking white guy is from which family/city. There are so many they are hard to keep straight at first.
     
  13. Aug 7, 2017 #173 of 385
    BeanMeScot

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    I'd say when a faceless one puts on another's face, everything about them becomes that other person. Face, height, weight, voice, etc. That's the magic part of it. Otherwise, they would never convince anyone they were someone else.
     
  14. Aug 7, 2017 #174 of 385
    BeanMeScot

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    And so many of the names are similar.
     
  15. Aug 7, 2017 #175 of 385
    dianebrat

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    I was also going to post that there's no reason not to think that there's some magic involved since we've pretty much established it exists in their universe.
     
  16. Aug 7, 2017 #176 of 385
    MacThor

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    Not very, once he threw in with House Stark at the Battle of the Bastards. The Boltons were her Wardens of the North.
     
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    mooseAndSquirrel

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    Just saw on FB that a bunch of people think Jon Snow did the cave drawings. The thought crossed my mind, I'll admit.
     
  18. Aug 7, 2017 #178 of 385
    tomhorsley

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    I figured it out! Arya will go to King's Landing, kill Cersei, then take her place and announce they are ending the war and teaming up with Dany to fight the white walkers, everyone will get killed in the battle except Arya, so she'll wind up on the iron throne, but she'll have to wear Cersei's face the rest of her life :).
     
  19. Aug 7, 2017 #179 of 385
    Anubys

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    Here is something completely out of left field...I had to watch the scene a second time today to confirm:

    When Arya is practicing with Brienne and it's over. Sansa leaves and only LittleFinger is left looking down on Arya. As Arya looks up, the music is playing 3 notes. Very distinctive notes from Tchaikovsky's Romeo and Juliet.

    It must be a coincidence. But I heard it every time.
     
  20. Aug 7, 2017 #180 of 385
    smak

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    Ditto. That's my plan too. Maybe 1 a week. There will be 67 episodes after this season, but we don't know when Season 8 will start, I think it'll be more than a year.

    -smak-
     

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