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Game of Thrones - S07E04 The Spoils of War 8/6/2017

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by BeanMeScot, Aug 6, 2017.

  1. Lord Snow

    Lord Snow New Member

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    This quote isn't from any of the books. It's made up.
     
  2. ct1

    ct1 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    The Faceless Wolf (fanfic)
     
  3. goblue97

    goblue97 Welcome Home, Jimmy!

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    There is a lot of thread that I haven't read yet (so it may have been mentioned) but I heard a theory that when Cersei and Jamie were in the "map room" in King's Landing, Cersei was standing on The Neck and Jamie was standing in front of The Fingers.
     
  4. Anubys

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    That is a fact, not a theory. I think the theory is then that this is a portent that Jamie will strangle Cersei ;)
     
  5. goblue97

    goblue97 Welcome Home, Jimmy!

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    That's what I meant. I was trying to stay vague (spoiler nazis) and I also just worded it horribly.
     
  6. Jstkiddn

    Jstkiddn Shutity up up up

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    Is it wrong that I would really like to see that happen?
     
  7. Anubys

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    Shame.

    Shame.

    Shame.

    :)
     
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  8. Johncv

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    Re-watch it today on HBO Go, I will be watching the rest of the show on HBO Go, much better PQ and sound from the Playstation then the DirtyTV and the crappy Genii box.
     
  9. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I think we'd all like to see that happen. Can't imagine that anyone doesn't. So no, it's not wrong at all.
     
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  10. BitbyBlit

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    I'm sure when Jon found out that Ramsey had Rickon, his first thought was, "Phew, Theon didn't kill him." :D

    But in all seriousness, he didn't act surprised at all to find out Rickon was still alive. So I think we can safely assume that he already knew beforehand. And my guess is that he already at the very least strongly suspected Rickon was still out there and alive long before Sansa showed up.

    That was just a normal fire, though. We don't know what dragon fire or even wildfire might do to them.

    Given all the dialogue about her going out on her own, I actually think it would have been more suspenseful to have Daenerys come charging in alone on her dragon. For a few moments, we might have thought that she had decided to take things into her own hands. And then they could have cut to the massive Dothraki horde charging in.

    Just wait until a Scorpion is used to destroy the gate.
     
  11. BitbyBlit

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    I would say unlikely, but not go so far as to say there is no chance. It's possible that her purpose in the story was simply to bring the Dothraki, Unsullied, and dragons to Westeros. Perhaps she does end up dying, and losing the war. Cersei and Euron marry, and both succesfully end up arranging for each other's murder (as both have been described as willing to do). Both of them die, and the realm is thrown into chaos.

    On top of that, the dragons have become wild, and are causing chaos of their own. Perhaps this is when Bran steps in, and takes control of them. And Jon must figure out how to unite the Seven Kingdoms before it's too late.

    I think it's extremely likely that either Jon or Daenerys will make it to the ultimate battle. But it's possible that the story doesn't need both of them. I still think it's more likely than not that they will both be there, but really the most important participants in that war are the dragons.
     
  12. BitbyBlit

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    I found Daenerys turning Jon's words to Tormund against him interesting. (When she said, "Isn't their survival more important than your pride?" It wasn't intentional, I'm assuming, but Jon recognized those words.)

    The thing is, though, Jon didn't demand that Tormund bend the knee. He only asked the Free Folk to fight with him. I wonder if that's a portent for what is to come in the arrangement between Jon and Daenerys. Perhaps Daenerys needs the North's help in her war against Cersei, and she eventually agrees to let the North have their independence as well as support them in the fight against the White Walkers if they help her with her war first.

    Jon won't like reducing the forces in the North, but perhaps he decides that the short term sacrifice is worth the longer term gains.

    On a different note, after Jon's speech to Daenerys about how she had inspired so many people to follow her because she wasn't "more of the same", it seemed odd that he was asking Missandei about whether or not she would be free to leave.
     
  13. tomhorsley

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    So the very latest teaser shows Jon in a stare down with a dragon. Stealing a dragon and flying it north would certainly be one way to get Dany's attention focused north :).
     
  14. BitbyBlit

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    Whoops. Those words were actually said by Jon to Mance, not Tormund. He shares similar sentiments with Tormund, but doesn't actually say that phrase.

    So I guess that means Jon ends up being burnt alive for not bending the knee. :D
     
  15. Anubys

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    And shot with an arrow to the heart while burning!
     
  16. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    This is the Song of Ice and Fire. Do you really think we're going to get to the end without either Ice (Jon Snow) or Fire (Daenerys Targaryen:)?
     
  17. BitbyBlit

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    What if Ice is Lyanna Stark and Fire is Rheagar Targaryen?

    Ice could also be the White Walkers and Fire the dragons.

    I do think most likely both will live to see the final battle, if not survive it. But I also think there are other possibilities that don't make their survival quite so certain, especially in this show.
     
  18. Howie

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    Are (were) Dickon and Rickon and Euron all related somehow or do they just share an 'on' at the end of their names?
     
  19. zordude

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    Pretty sure not related.

    Dickon Tarly
    Euron Greyjoy
     
  20. uncdrew

    uncdrew Annie 2.0

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    Part of me wants Cersie to win. Be the last person standing. Just to read the comments mostly.
     

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