Game of Thrones S06E10 Season Finale The Winds of Winter

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  1. NatasNJ

    NatasNJ Bone marrow lover!

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    So at the end... I assume all these major events occurred at roughly the same time?

    1.) Who knows about Jon Snow becoming King?
    2.) Who knows about Cerasi becoming Queen?
    3.) Who knows that Mother of Dragons is sailing towards Kings Landing? (I assume)
    4.) How big is the Lannsiters army now?
    5.) How does the highgarden mother play into things? Dorne? I assume they are going after the Lannisters as well?
    6.) Does the highgarden mother know about her whole bloodline being murdered?

    I assume Littlefinger will screw over the starks and cause them to lose out.
     
  2. JFriday

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

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    Yea I enjoyed it too other than my wife and coworker asking what's going to happen next.
     
  3. mooseAndSquirrel

    mooseAndSquirrel Well-Known Member

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    At least Loras didn't have to go out in public with that forehead tattoo.
     
  4. wedgecon

    wedgecon Just Plain Awesome TCF Club

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    Don't forget that the stores are not all in chronological order, this may have happened while Jon Snow was still the Lord Commander.
     
  5. 3D

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    In all fairness, I did say that I did not have an encyclopedic knowledge of his history. :)
     
  6. Shakhari

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    I don't get why anyone thinks Sansa should feel slighted. Granted, Jon isn't a great military commander ... especially considering how his previous command ended ... but Sansa didn't save the day with her superior military prowess. In fact, she didn't save the day at all ... Littlefinger and the knights of the Vale did that. All Sansa did was write a letter.

    Arya seems to have not only made it to Westeros, but all the way out to the Twins in a very short amount of time. She must have the same travel plan Varys does.
     
  7. Shakhari

    Shakhari Well-Known Member

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    I missed that Jon probably was given a Targaeryan name. A lot of them seem to end in "on," so maybe "Jon" is a nickname for something more dragonish.
     
  8. BrettStah

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    How much time do you think elapsed between when Arya left Bravos and the events of this episode? There's no way for us to know,a s far as I can recall.

    I prefer that they skip over long travel days/weeks/months whenever possible, personally.
     
  9. jakerock

    jakerock Hey ho howdy!

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    We don't know when all the different scenes are happening in time. So Arya leaving for Westros could have been months ago in time though it was only one show ago.

    Of course, to get the timing to work for Varys we somehow need to jump ahead in the future from the destruction of the sept (since grandmother Tyrell has to find out about that event, then get summoned to Dorne AFTER Varys has already arrived with his plans...) then we have to jump ahead in time again so that he has time to travel back to be with the fleet...

    OK so it is really pretty much impossible to reconcile the timing of all this stuff. Just think of all the stuff that will be happening during the next year while we wait for an update! :D
     
  10. BrettStah

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    He didn't have to travel back if the fleet made a quick stop to Dorne on the way.
     
  11. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    Judging from her conversation with the Head Snake, she must...
    ??? That's the point...they don't know that Jon is Lord Commander; they still have Jeor Mormont as High Commander.
     
  12. MacThor

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    I think you need to re-watch the scene in Dorne. (That's OK, lots of us zone out for the Dorne parts) :)

    Olenna Tyrell's alliance with Dorne is purely for vengeance on the Lannisters. "Fire and Blood" according to Varys.

    Also, she said "She (Cersei) murdered my son...my granddaughter...my grandson." So she knew.
     
  13. Ereth

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    Yes, probably "Aerjon". Or maybe "AirJordan". :D
     
  14. MacThor

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    Exactly. The mutiny at Craster's Keep was a looooooooong time ago. For the Citadel not to know about that, especially considering everything else that has happened at the wall/in the north since, is just...

    it's.....

    Inconceivable!!
     
  15. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    It's not about who was responsible for winning the battle. It's about who is the rightful heir. According to Westerosi tradition, a full-blooded heir should be in line before a bastard, even if the full-blooded heir is a woman. Thus, Sansa's claim should be above Jon's. (Of course, we know that Bran is still alive and therefore he's the rightful heir, but none of the people at Winterfell know that.)

    If you look at a map, the distance from Braavos to The Twins really isn't that great. If Arya took a ship and sailed all the way into The Bite and dropped her off there, then The Twins is very close. Plus, it was two episodes ago when we saw Arya leave Braavos, so that's pretty realistic. And Varys left Meereen a couple episodes ago as well. So the only thing that's unrealistic is Varys getting back to Meereen to sail with the fleet after meeting with Ilyria and the Queen of Thorns in Dorne. But if, as someone already said, the fleet already stopped off in Dorne and picked him up, then he didn't really travel far at all.
     
  16. dcheesi

    dcheesi ...I'm not.

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    I think the main point there was to hold back Jon's true name for an epic reveal at some later date. Bran probably knows all, the show runners just don't want *us* to know that tidbit yet.

    As the after-credits commentary suggested, I think she's at least to blame for leaving him alone in the wake of it all, to go and play petty revenge in the dungeon. She even pulled the Mountain away for that task, rather than leaving him to guard the king in a very chaotic and vulnerable moment.


    The books addressed that with a character that never made the series.
    It takes more than just belief and a few drops of Targaryen blood to avoid becoming a crispy snack for dragons!
     
  17. Robin

    Robin Impolite arrogant woman

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    But had Sansa given any indication sure WANTS to be in charge?

    Even if she is the rightful heir and she knows she's the rightful heir I think she'd be happy to hand it over.
     
  18. goblue97

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    I'll have to re-watch but I thought the smile went away as the speech progressed. Not that she was unhappy, just not sure.
     
  19. BrettStah

    BrettStah Well-Known Member

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    Would Sansa have the ability to de-bastardize Jon?
     
  20. goblue97

    goblue97 Welcome Home, Jimmy!

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    Maybe it was Talisa playing the harp.
     

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