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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by BeanMeScot, Jun 26, 2016.
Are Tyrion and Sansa technically still married?
The books are attached via chains to the bookcases. It used to be common for valuable books in libraries.
Well they never consummated the marriage
That's right. It also used to be common for the books to be placed on the shelves spine-in (the opposite of what we currently do), as this better allowed the books to be removed from the shelves and viewed without tangling the chain when turning the book. Books were also typically stacked flat (lying down) not standing on edge as is the modern custom.
True. Sansa is the widow of Ramsey Bolton which may mean she is the heir to all Bolton lands and holdings. It also means she is available.
Great season final. I need a second viewing to digest all that happened.
It seems to me that Dany has way more power than Jon. Plus she and most of her allies are geographically away from the ravages of the coming winter. Also, I don't see Jon even wanting the iron throne. Ned wouldn't have, and I don't see Jon wanting it either. I think help with the White Walkers is all Jon really wants, but it may turn out that Jon is what Dany needs to keep her dragons in line.
So, I had always pretty much assumed Daenerys would end up on the Iron Throne and that would be the end of it.
But with the reminder that she can't have children, it got me to thinking that even if she succeeds, it only pushes the problem off one generation. There will be no heir, and we get to have this war all over again whenever she dies (however far off that may be).
Even the idea of her pairing with Jon Snow doesn't solve that problem.
And while I don't think George RR Martin has any intention of "they lived happily ever after", I also don't know that he'd leave that big a hole in the story.
So who gets the throne *after* Daenerys Stormborn, first of her name, Queen of the Andals, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm?
I've always wondered how much Cersi really loves Jaime as I think that Jaime loves her far more than she loves him.
(And that's a problem.)
That's 8 more minutes than Alexander Siddig had.
I was also hoping that they didn't pay Alfie Allen by the line in this episode.
Bureaucrats are constant no matter where you go.
A problem for him, sure...
As for her "it feels good".
I think I've heard or read here or elsewhere that GRRM has stated that this saga will not have
a traditional "happy" ending.
Given that, I was intrigued by the poster earlier today who suggested that it's always been Baelish and Varys playing the "Game" and perhaps once the war between Dany and Cersei and then the war between humans and White Walkers are concluded, one of Baelish or Varys will be left as the only people in any position of power and that's how the saga will end.
She is the mother of dragons. Drogon will rule.
I could see the war resulting in the destruction of King's Landing and the Iron Throne altogether. Perhaps the end result is something going back to the seven independent kingdoms, with a loose detente. Break the wheel, indeed.
I thought she said that she saw a great battle/victory in the snow. That's what I remember.
And Jon Snow was truly dead and going to stay that way.
I thought he just said truly dead, but nothing about him staying that way..?
I'm curious how the Free Folk are going to fit into all of this. They don't believe in bowing to any noble, not even Jon. And while Jon might be okay making a deal with them similar to Daenerys' with the Ironborn (you can be independent as long as you don't raid and pillage other territories), I'm not sure how many others, including Daenerys, would honor that agreement, and instead consider them to be rebels.
Tyrion made a good point that if Daenerys makes the same deal as she did with the Ironborn with all the kingdoms, then there won't be any left for her to rule. On the other hand, I think Daenerys cares less about power for power's sake than power for justice's sake. Admittedly, it is her view of justice, and she will beat people into submission to get her way. But if the other kingdoms were willing to adhere to her vision of justice, then perhaps she would be okay with the direct ruling over King's Landing, and loosely over the Seven Kingdoms only in the sense that if they violated the terms of their treaties with her, her and the other kingdoms would march against them (as part of their treaties).
She did say that the other kingdoms were free to ask for their independence as well. Perhaps having the house in control of King's Landing not a house tied to another kingdom might help to minimize bias when dealing with inter-kingdom matters.
Or maybe all of the remaining stockpiled wildfire is ignited in King's Landing, thus killing all of the invading White Walker army in the city along with everyone else. "Burn them all!" is the battle cry. "Burn them all!"
The rest of Westeros is left similarly in ruins, and there are barely any inhabitants left.
The last scene of the series shows a King's Landing that is completely silent save for the footsteps of a man walking through the rubble of the Great Hall of the Red Keep. It is Petyr Baelish. He sits down on the Iron Throne, and smiles. Then the credits roll.
She uses him when she needs something. She never consults with him. This will become more apparent to him now that she's queen.
I don't know about the ruling KL part, but I can see Dany stepping back and letting others rule their regions with the threat of crushing them if they attack others or are bad to their people (slavery).
"Go ahead and rule your cute little kingdoms. Just remember that if you piss me off, you piss my dragons off. And a well-fed dragon is a happy dragon, and cattle costs money, so you might want to help make my dragons happy."
Seems that Dan and David are pretty serious about finishing up the series soon:
Didn't they all agree though that the letter wasn't forged? That means that it did come from Robert.
Or did they agree that it really did come from Tywin? I assume Tywin sent them a copy or something. Every document like that would have at least one duplicate in some government office!