Game of Thrones S06E10 Season Finale The Winds of Winter

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  1. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003


    So this means Jon is a bastard either way. I just find it hard to believe that GRRM would have the identity of Jon's parents be such a big secret and wait so long to reveal it if it wasn't going to have some significant impact on his prospects and on the plot.

    Is the big reveal just that he has both Stark (Ice) and Targaryen (Fire) blood? Is that really all that significant, in the grand scheme of things? If he's a bastard, then he doesn't really have a claim to be an heir to any Stark or Targaryen titles, so that seems like it would be really anticlimactic if that were the case.
  2. robojerk

    robojerk Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2006
    Laguna Hills CA
    I like the pic on the polygamy page..

    So since the Targaryon's get a pass on incest, maybe Rhaegar Jon can get a pass on his parents polygamy since it's in the family history.. Also Aegon the first's younger sister (I presume his 2nd wife, since tradition said he had to marry his older sister) produced his heir.
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2016
  3. Royster

    Royster Beardy

    May 24, 2002
    Long Island, NY
    Knowledge is different from News.
  4. MacThor

    MacThor Not Pictured

    Feb 7, 2002
    Richmond VA
    True. But since the mutiny, there has been the battle at the Wall, Stannis' defeat of Mance, Stannis' defeat by Ramsay, an election of Lord Commander (which required ravens to Eastwatch and Shadow Tower). Everyone else in Westeros knew Jon was LC. The Citadel, which is raven central, didn't get the memo?

    It's a minor nit to be sure.

    I also didn't understand why they killed Pycelle separately. They could have let him die in the blast.
  5. 3D

    3D Active Member

    Oct 9, 2001
    Plantation, FL.


    Some Starks can Warg. Some Targaryens bond with dragons. Maybe having the blood of both allows him to Warg into a dragon.
  6. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD
    As she watched littlefinger. It was her gaze at him that disturbed her smile.
  7. JETarpon

    JETarpon Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    And when she picked up the hot eggs in mid season 1.
  8. Fahtrim

    Fahtrim Member

    Apr 12, 2004
    Why does everyone assume all these things are happening at the same time when in different parts of that land?
  9. TampaThunder

    TampaThunder Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2003
    Tampa, FL
    The pardon from Robert Baratheon was sent to Jorah by Varys and hand delivered to him just before the first attempt on Danerys' life - the wine seller who tried to poison her. He pretty much pissed the pardon away when he stepped in and stopped the assassination.

    It's only a minor detail but no reason for you to be the only one to correct them. ;)
  10. JETarpon

    JETarpon Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    Aeron, Aemon,.... Aejon
  11. tlc

    tlc Active Member

    May 29, 2002
    Legitimacy doesn't matter to anyone who's left. Power matters. Jon has been declared King in the North. He has an army and several houses behind him.

    There's only a few players left in the Game. None will care about Jon's legitimacy. Dany may care if he has Targaryan blood. But there are no other Targaryans to line up behind him if he is legitimate. The other players will only care if they can beat him, align with him or come to some accord.

    Also, that Targaryan blood may come with a Power of it's own. The impact of Jon's parentage will be aligning with Dany or a special Power.
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  12. JETarpon

    JETarpon Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    And remember that Dany cannot have children. Even if she takes Westeros, she needs someone of Targaryen blood to be her heir.
  13. getbak

    getbak Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2004
    Calgary, AB
    No. If we assume that Westeros uses the same rules of inheritance that the British Crown has traditionally used (which is a safe assumption based on what we've seen), then Jon's claim as Rhaegar's son (if legitimized) would be stronger than Dany's.

    Using the British crown as an example, if Charles were to pass away before the Queen, William would be the heir to the Throne, with his children and brother behind him. William's uncle Andrew wouldn't suddenly leapfrog Harry and William and William's children just because he's the son of the Queen and William is only her grandson.
  14. dcheesi

    dcheesi ...I'm not.

    Apr 6, 2001
    MD, USA
    O. M. F. G. :eek: :up:
  15. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    Anybody have a problem with how Jon handled Mellisandre? banishing her seemed like a slap on the wrist. And Davos simply let her go after all his ranting and raving seemed strange.

    I also need to mention that it was great seeing the look of joy/wonder as Sam saw that the Citadel was as grand as his wildest imagination.
  16. mooseAndSquirrel

    mooseAndSquirrel Well-Known Member

    Aug 31, 2001
    Whatsamatta U
    Yeah, it seemed a little bet hedging. Hmm, maybe the Lord of Light is helping out.

    Anyway, at least there's a chance of some more nekkidness (keep the necklace on please)
  17. Robin

    Robin Impolite arrogant woman

    Dec 6, 2001
    Maybe a thanks for bringing me (back) into this world.

    Sort of like how Robb didn't hang his mother for treason.
  18. BitbyBlit

    BitbyBlit .

    Aug 25, 2001
    And on top of that, I'm fairly certain he knew his mother was responsible. The second most important woman in his life killed the most important woman in his life. I think that's what ultimately pushed him over the edge.
  19. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

    Jul 24, 2003
    15 mins...
    Did she help out in any way in the battle of the bastards? She said that Jon would need her help in the upcoming war but she didn't break a sweat when he needed her.

    Good riddance to Tommen. I'm glad he jumped. He was an easily swayed weakling. Any man, let alone the damn king, who allows his mother to be imprisoned, beaten and made to endure the walk of shame should have been thrown out the window. He also let the love of his life to be imprisoned. Chump.
  20. Ereth

    Ereth Unemployed Bum

    Jun 16, 2000
    Didn't she also say, years ago, that in her vision she saw Jon Snow walking amongst the flames at Winterfell? Or am I misremembering that?

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