Game of Thrones s06e03 - "Oathbreaker"

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  1. RegBarc

    RegBarc Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. Also, they had a fight before in the series, during the Tournament of the Hand where the Mountain (played by a different actor) lost a joust with Loras Tyrell and beheaded his own horse, then went berserk. The Hound then defended Loras Tyrell from the Mountain going crazy and a small sword fight ensued that was only stopped by King Robert ordering them to stop. The hound immediately obeyed and bent the knee, while the Mountain sort of calmed down and just walked away.
     
  2. markbox

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    The Warrior of course. :)
     
  3. ct1

    ct1 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    The Mountain is still on Arya's list, right?
     
  4. gossamer88

    gossamer88 UHDTV Snob

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    What list? :D
     
  5. TonyD79

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    A girl doesn't have a list.
     
  6. john4200

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    A girl hath no lithp.
     
  7. ct1

    ct1 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Right, and a girl doesn't still have a sword, either.
     
  8. teknikel

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    A girl may learn that she doesn't need a sword.
     
  9. Robin

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    She buried the sword, didn't she? It's not necessarily out of play.

    Isn't it dragon glass?
     
  10. heySkippy

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    No, ordinary steel.
     
  11. Anubys

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    Just to expand on this with a statement looking for confirmation:

    Two things that we know of that can kill those things (I forget what they are called, the masters, not the regular zombies): dragon glass and Valeryan Steel.

    As far I know, you can't make a sword out of dragon glass but you can make those makeshift daggers out of them. Also, dragon glass is found in abundance on Dragon Stone; probably made from dragon fire when they destroyed the castle.

    Anything wrong with the above statements?
     
  12. cherry ghost

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    Nothing wrong other than Dragonstone was not destroyed. It's where the Targaryens lived, with dragons, when they first came to Westeros. More recently it's where Stannis was based before he went to The Wall.
     
  13. ct1

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    White Walkers
     
  14. Robin

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    Ah, right. I was thinking it was something that could off white walkers and got confused.

    So needle was just ordinary steel?

    I wish I had time to rewatch from the beginning.
     
  15. Anubys

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    No doubt about that. Ned had a sword maker at Winterfell make it for her. There is no valeryan steel anywhere and Ned would not have wasted it on a gift to a girl if he had it. He also would have mentioned it when he made the gift.

    The only way to get valeryan steel is to kill someone who has a sword already or to melt one as Tywin did and make new sword(s) out of them.
     
  16. Robin

    Robin Impolite arrogant woman

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    I think that's what led me astray. I remembered someone melting one down and making two out if it, I thought needle was part of that.
     
  17. RegBarc

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    Yeah, it's not Valyrian steel, but it is castle-forged steel. It's pretty high quality at even a brief glance and I think that's been pointed out a couple of times so far in the series when they discuss Needle. So it's not the kind that can kill white walkers, but it's really good compared to normal swords.

    There's only a few Valyrian steel swords shown or mentioned in the series. Ice (Ned Stark's sword) was broken down into Oathkeeper and Widow's Wail; the former went to Brianne of Tarth and the latter is now with Tommen after Joffrey choked. There's also Longclaw, from House Mormont (think former Lord Commander of the Night's Watch and father of Ser Jorah Mormont) but now owned by Jon Snow. There's the dagger that was used in the second episode to (try to) kill Brandon Stark when he was in a coma.

    There's also one more, mentioned in the first book:

    Heartsbane, owned by Randyll Tarley, Samwell's father. No one knows if this will be brought up in future episodes, but he has one.

    As for other Valerian steel swords, mentioned in the books:

    There's also a bunch of Valyrian steel swords that were lost over the years and no one knows what happened to them.
     
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  18. TampaThunder

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    Just a minor quibble - Jon Snow had Needle made for Arya.
     
  19. Anubys

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    I see now what you meant...Ice (Ned's sword) was so big that they were able to make 2 swords out of it (Tywin even said something about how big the sword was).

    Needle is resting quietly where Arya hid it close to where she is doing her assassin internship.
     
  20. wprager

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    Why was this episode title "Oathbreaker"? It's clearly meant to refer to Jon leaving the Watch, but he very correctly states that *his* watch is over so he is not breaking his oath.
     

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