Game of Thrones s06e03 - "Oathbreaker"

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  1. Shaunnick

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    In is defense, he was not well fed, rested, and had not had a sword in hand for months.

    Plus Brienne is built like a linebacker.
     
  2. 3D

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    Thanks for posting, I somehow missed this last year. A little long but some really funny parts, especially in the last four or five minutes.
     
  3. TampaThunder

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    And, if I remember correctly, his hands were shackled.
     
  4. Anubys

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    Welcome to the Jaime Lannister excuse making society! :p
     
  5. Shaunnick

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    I'm just saying, if he still had his good hand High Sparrow would be dead by now.
     
  6. Anubys

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    well, I don't know about the books...but for show-watchers only, it sure seems that Ned's opinion of Jaime was right on the money. Jaime was famous for his skills in the "entertainment" fights. That's is very different fighting than in real life/death fight or in war.

    Ned was at least as good. Brienne beat him handily, excuses or not. The Hound fought Brienne almost to a draw; which means he, too, was better than Jaime. I doubt Jaime would've beaten Bronn, and he was just another hired gun in the right place at the right time. We know the Mountain is better than them all. Surely, the guy that almost killed the Mountain in that duel (I forget his name) was better than Jaime if he could beat the Mountain.

    No doubt that Jaime could fight, but all indications on the show is that he was not half as good as his reputation made him out to be.
     
  7. ct1

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    Oberyn Martell.

    But "could beat" is not transitive. If style A beats style B and style B beats style C, it doesn't imply that style A beats style C.

    (And yes, Oberyn beat the Mountain. If his goal had been only to kill him, he would have been dead.)
     
  8. brianp6621

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    This logic is highly flawed.

    It isn't excuses but real circumstances, that Jaime was considerably handicapped during his fight with Brienne. No matter how good you are at something, there are circumstances under which a "lesser" person could beat you that don't actually reflect on your skill.

    We don't know that the mountain is better as we haven't see him in a true sword fight and the same goes for Oberyn as he wasn't using a sword.

    Remember, Jaime's claim isn't the best fighter, most deadly, etc, he is supposed to be one of the best sword fighters. Those aren't the same thing.

    All that said, Jaime's actual skill level was most likely overblown.
     
  9. gossamer88

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    That ending just killed me. :( :mad:
     
  10. ozzman73

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    and Oberyn and nearly Tyrion. :)
     
  11. TampaThunder

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    Wait....Does Jaime play for the Washington Capitals???? ;)
     
  12. JYoung

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    Was Jamie's reputation overblown?
    Most likely.
    He was the golden boy of one of the most prominent families in Westeros and there's that whole "Kingslayer" business.

    But he also probably had the finest swordmanship instructors that Tywin could buy and I think he had a lot of raw talent too.
    (Didn't Dayne recruit him into the King's Guard because he saw Jaime's talent?)

    Jaime probably was one of the best swordsmans in Westeros before he lost his hand.
    Don't forget that his hands were shackled when he fought Brienne and the Hound was already rather ill he and Brienne fought (and Brienne had to do the Tyson to beat the Hound).

    But Ned may have been better Jaime in Season 1 due to the fact that Jaime fought mostly in tournaments and had never really fought in battle while Ned fought in numerous battles.

    Certainly Ned was more battle cunning as I believe that one reason he didn't fight until he had to was to keep his opponents guessing as to what his skill level really was and how he actually fought.
     
  13. Anubys

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    I think Ned said as much to Jaime!
     
  14. uncdrew

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    Why couldn't he be the one that got reincarnated. Instead they revive Jon Snow. :(

    I loved the Red Viper.
     
  15. nickels

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    The Hound vs The Mountain is what the entire GOT world is hoping for as the outcome of Cersei's inevitable Trial by Combat. Cleganebowl! If the fans get this right I really can't wait. We already know the Mountain is in one corner, so who will fight for the High Sparrow?
     
  16. ct1

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    Brienne? That would be fun...
     
  17. DevdogAZ

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    Last we saw the Hound he'd been gravely injured and was begging Arya to just kill him rather than leave him there to suffer. If he's still alive (or was resurrected), they're going to have some major backstory to fill in to explain what happened to him.
     
  18. gossamer88

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    The theory floating around is...

    ...that the sparrows found him and nursed him back to health and have been hiding him somewhere.
     
  19. uncdrew

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    1. Isn't The Hound dead?
    2. Aren't they brothers? Or buddies?
    3. Does uncdrew pay attention?
     
  20. ct1

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    Brothers, but not buddies. The hound played with one of the mountain's toys when they were children, so the mountain held his face over the fire until he was disfigured.
     

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