Game of Thrones "Breaker of Chains" 4/20/14 S4E3

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  1. Apr 20, 2014 #1 of 169

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

    Jan 6, 2003
    Fastest hour on TV. And another phenomenal episode. More pieces moving around the chess table.

    Tywin giving Tommen the birds & bees talk. :eek:
  2. Apr 20, 2014 #2 of 169

    Jstkiddn Shutity up up up

    Oct 15, 2003
    Every time I think stuff cannot be weirder, I'm wrong. Cersei and Jaime having incest sex by their dead son's body?!? WTF?
  3. Apr 20, 2014 #3 of 169

    gossamer88 UHDTV Snob

    Jul 26, 2005
    Da boogie...
    Brilliant move by Dany. Last week's previews made you think it was barrels full of flammable liquid. But she's too smart for that!
  4. Apr 20, 2014 #4 of 169

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    to be fair, Jaime was raping Cersei.

    Sansa could not figure out that there was a trap? The Starks are true idiots, aren't they?

    Tywin was so done with Joffrey! the man is amazing.
  5. Apr 20, 2014 #5 of 169

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    oh...and so much for my brilliant theory regarding who killed Joffrey! :eek:
  6. Apr 20, 2014 #6 of 169

    gossamer88 UHDTV Snob

    Jul 26, 2005
    Da boogie...
    The second the farmer told the Hound he had some silver I knew he was done for. And for the record I agree with The Hound. He's a lot smarter than he looks :D
  7. Apr 20, 2014 #7 of 169

    tlc Active Member

    May 29, 2002
    Just when you thought Jaime was getting more likeable.

    Loved the barrels!

    So Tywin is lining up judges who will vote for him. But which way?
  8. Apr 21, 2014 #8 of 169

    john4200 Well-Known Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    So what is your theory now?
  9. Apr 21, 2014 #9 of 169

    Jstkiddn Shutity up up up

    Oct 15, 2003
    Poor Sansa. I believe she's jumped from the frying pan directly into the fire.
  10. Apr 21, 2014 #10 of 169

    Azlen Well-Known Member

    Nov 24, 2002
    Peoria, AZ
    When Dany was talking all I could imagine happening was a bunch of people thinking "Is she talking?, I can't hear anything she is saying."
  11. Apr 21, 2014 #11 of 169

    BitbyBlit .

    Aug 25, 2001
    Knowing that Lord Baelish had a pivotal role in the plan to assassinate Joffrey makes me more certain than ever that Olenna and Tywin were involved. I don't think they made their agreement in King's Landing anymore, however. If Lord Baelish was involved, I think that perhaps the plan to assassinate Joffrey began when he arranged for the Tyrells to aid in the defense of King's Landing against Stannis.

    Unless Cersei was manipulating Jaime to kill Tyrion, I think she really is upset about Joffrey's death. (I do like Tyrion's comment about this being an unusual murder in that he was certain Cersei had nothing to do with it. :D)

    To be fair to her, even if she suspected something, it's not like she had too many alternative options. And while this position might not be the best to be in, her running away from the The Fool and getting caught by the King's Guard would have led those behind Joffrey's assassination to cover their tracks by arranging something like a failed escape attempt that resulted in her death.

    Lord Baelish was supposedly going to see Lysa. Perhaps that was a lie simply to set him up to be in a position to get Sansa, but if he really is heading there (or was there, and is heading back), then maybe Sansa will be reunited with Arya.

    (Who am I kidding? They'll be just beyond arms lengths of each other, and then a bunch of people will get slaughtered, and they will be separated once again. Having more than one Stark in a certain region seems to lead to that. :D)

    Their acoustics are specifically designed for these kinds of pissing matches. :D
  12. Apr 21, 2014 #12 of 169

    morac Cat God

    Mar 14, 2003
    Which gem was missing from the necklace last week? This week the rightmost (as facing Sansa) appeared to be missing. Also the gems appear to be made of glass.

    At this point the only one who seems to care that Joffrey is dead is Cersei, which means anyone or everyone could have been behind the plot to kill him.
  13. Apr 21, 2014 #13 of 169

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    The missing gem at the wedding was the one on her left, or the one on your right if you were facing her.

    Hence the reason why Tyrion said Cersie was the only person in Kings Landing that he was certain had nothing to do with Joffrey's death.

    Did anyone else think of Monty Python when Stannis' daughter said, "Ka-nig-it?"
  14. Apr 21, 2014 #14 of 169

    smbaker Well-Known Member

    May 24, 2003
    What choice did she have. The king had just been murdered. Her husband is the prime suspect. She had the greatest motive to wish him dead. Without the fool spiriting her off to Baelish, she would have stood there like a deer in the headlights until apprehended and thrown in a dungeon.

    I think it's entirely possible that Baelish is in it for himself, including finding himself a nice Stark girl that he can marry to unite the lands after whatever plan he's pursuing against the Lannisters plays out.

    I love how Baelish has now betrayed not only the Starks, but also the Lannisters. You really can't trust that guy.

    Olenna and Tywin aren't involved. Olenna would have waited until the marriage was consummated. Tywin would not have framed one of his own sons for the murder, not even the son he doesn't like. An "accident" would have been a much better way for Tywin to dispose of Joffrey than a very public murder.
  15. Apr 21, 2014 #15 of 169
    Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    More like jumped from the fire into the frying pan...i.e., she went from certain immediate death or worse to possible death or worse somewhere down the line.
    Can it be said that he ever really betrayed anybody? He said himself, he's only on his own side. And he would NEVER betray himself! :D
  16. Apr 21, 2014 #16 of 169

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

    Jul 24, 2003
    15 mins...
    What's the evidence that Tyrion was framed other than Joffrey pointing at him and Cersei claiming him as the poisoner?

    I still think Tywin had something to do with it. If that turns out to be untrue, he certainly won't miss the little tyrant.

    Jaimie raping his sister next to their son's corpse further indicates that George R R Martin has one bleeped up mind.

    What was in the barrels that Dany catapulted, collars?
  17. Apr 21, 2014 #17 of 169

    Gunnyman Just a boring dude

    Jul 10, 2003
    Slave collars.
  18. Apr 21, 2014 #18 of 169
    Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    I don't really see a frame at all. Tyrion's actions were completely unpredictable (and for him, completely unfortunate). And how would Joffrey have known who poisoned him?

    I suppose it's possible Petyr intended for him to be blamed at some point, and just got really lucky at the way things played out. But as you say, at this point there's no evidence of a frame...or really, no evidence that he did it other than Mommy Dearest freaking out.
    Right, slave collars. The implication being, these are the collars of the slaves from the last city we took; the next city could get YOUR collars if you'd just pretty please pitch your masters off that wall, thank you and good night.
  19. Apr 21, 2014 #19 of 169

    jollygrunt777 Member

    Feb 27, 2012
    Republic of...
    It seemed to me like she wanted a bit of a distraction.

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  20. Apr 21, 2014 #20 of 169

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    I know!

    I think he realized what an awful person she was when she finally kissed him only when she needed him to kill Tyrion. To be so manipulated was more than he could take. And the only way he could get revenge was to do this.


    I have none. Olena seems innocent given her conversation with Margery. Tywin looks like a person who was given an unexpected gift.

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