Game of Thrones 8x05 "The Bells" 5/12/19

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  1. robojerk

    robojerk Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather wait for the books to be done, then just have HBO animate where the writers abandoned the source material and redo some if s5 and on.. Redoing it would probably cost to much now. The locations are probably dismantled or allocated for the other GoT shows. Most of the actors probably want to move on and do other things. Also HBO would have to admit they fooked up their biggest franchise to date. There's no good in redoing it. I'd rather have more of the books added to the show anyways, I think animated will be the way it happens.
     
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  2. Marco

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    NO ONE is seriously contemplating shooting season 8 again.
     
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  3. robojerk

    robojerk Well-Known Member

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    There are petitions saying HBO should cancel the finale and reshoot s8. /shrug
     
  4. TampaThunder

    TampaThunder Well-Known Member

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    You're better off not having a dissenting opinion. If I disagree with somebody I don't call them an idiot or say they're "screaming bloody murder". I just disagree with them. Must be the way I was raised and I apologise for that.
     
  5. type_g

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    They already spent millions per episode. So no way they would reshoot and spend millions more to appease the fans. Everyone still gonna watch whether its good or not cause they have the fan base already and no one is gonna bail. Financially HBO would never redo a season let alone an episode that they already spent millions per episode. Fans don't think logically they think with there heart. Money is the only thing that matters to the higher ups not fans. Petitions do nothing to networks.
     
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  6. TampaThunder

    TampaThunder Well-Known Member

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    EXACTLY. They are just using the petition process as a tool to express publicly their dissatisfaction with what they've seen. Are they wrong? No. Are they right? No. It's their opinion and they are entitled to it.

    Anubys for President in 2020!! Make 'Merica great again!!

    I don't want Season 8 done again. That's not going to happen. I am dissatisfied with how they've finished this show but it is what it is. I can understand why people love it and understand why people hate it but the caustic attitude of those that disagree is more distasteful than what Benioff and Weiss have done by far.
     
  7. hefe

    hefe Rebus Philbin

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    Do we know this for certain?
     
  8. TampaThunder

    TampaThunder Well-Known Member

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    He must or how can he be so positive that everybody who doesn't like the way it's been portrayed are stupid and silly?
     
  9. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    And the fact that we each watched the episodes and interpreted Jaime's motivations differently is proof that the show did a poor job articulating that piece of character development, leaving the fans to guess at exactly what was happening.

    For several seasons, we had been seeing Jaime develop and begin to realize what a psychopath Cersei is. Finally, in S07E07, he reached his breaking point and he defied her by going north to help in the battle, even if Cersei wasn't sending any troops with him. After he arrived at Winterfell and the NK was defeated, he consummated a relationship that had been developing over many seasons, and since we know Jaime had never been with any other woman besides Cersei, it was a very big deal that he decided to sleep with Brienne. And then when the armies were leaving to go south, Jaime indicated that he was going to stay at Winterfell with Brienne. So all of that seemed like the logical results of the many seasons of character development for Jaime. And then just a few minutes later, in the same episode, they throw all that out the window and have Jaime bail on Brienne to go back to Cersei. And to top it off, they didn't even properly explain why he was going, so much of the fan base thought he might be going to kill Cersei, while many others thought he might be going to try and save her from Dany's inevitable win. Again, I'm totally fine with the actual plot points. I'm just dissatisfied with the character development that led to those plot points.
    I totally agree with this. I'm fairly certain that the major plot points were given by GRRM and that if/when the books finally come out, Jaime will go back to Cersei and Dany will go mad and destroy the city. But the big difference is that GRRM will lay the tracks so that when those things happen in the books, the reader will feel like those plot points were earned.
     
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  10. PJO1966

    PJO1966 Hi. What is this?

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    Personally I'm reserving judgement until after the final episode airs. This season hasn't been perfect, but I've still enjoyed it.

    From what I've read, this season had the same number of hours as the ten episode season would have had. They made a few of the episodes longer to save on expenses. Cast and crew are paid by the episode, not by the number of hours required to shoot.
     
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  11. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    That's definitely not true. The first two episodes were both around 60 minutes. The last four were around 80 minutes. So that works out to 7 hours and 20 minutes. Not even close to the typical 9-10 hours of a full season.
    While most of the big-name actors are paid by the episode due to contracts, I doubt that's true for the crew and non-contract actors. I'm pretty sure they would be paid either by the hour or by the day. Can you imagine how the crew would have rebelled if they had been paid the exact same amount for 55 nights of shooting on S08E03 as 10-15 days of shooting on a normal episode?
     
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  12. mm2margaret

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    [QUOTE="TampaThunder, post: 11784242, member: 46309"

    "..... the caustic attitude of those that disagree is more distasteful than what Benioff and Weiss have done by far.[/QUOTE]

    So, if someone disagrees and does so in this forum where people are encouraged to discuss and debate about tv shows, that's "caustic" and "distasteful"???? I would say that opinion is more caustic and distasteful than anything anyone else has expressed on this forum or any other....pro or con as it relates to the episode or the series itself.
     
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  13. DavidTigerFan

    DavidTigerFan No, not Detroit. TCF Club

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    Not to mention that GoT is the highest rated show on HBO ever. They are rolling in cash. They could have easily afforded 3-4 more episodes. From what I've read, HBO wasn't the one wanting less episodes, it was D&D for some awful reason.
     
  14. mm2margaret

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    The discussion is NOT about whether Dany will go mad, but HOW and in what way and how it was developed that Dany goes "mad". It is a distortion to say that somehow those of us who had trouble with the episode are disagreeing with the major plot points. I'm not and I think most aren't. It's all about how it was done.
     
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  15. Marco

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    I'm FULLY AWARE there are petitions, signed by hundreds of thousands of fans of the show.

    I'll say it again:
    No one (who is in a position to do so) is seriously contemplating shooting season 8 of Game of Thrones over.
     
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  16. robojerk

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    I whole heatedly agree with that.
     
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  17. mm2margaret

    mm2margaret Meagan

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    This is true. There's not going to be a re-do anytime soon. But the petition does do is express dissatisfaction with the episode, and I'm sure the producers have heard that message, and that's about all it will accomplish.
     
  18. PJO1966

    PJO1966 Hi. What is this?

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    They probably haven't heard it since they said they would be going on vacation with their wives and completely unplugging. :D
     
  19. uncdrew

    uncdrew Annie 2.0

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    I think we all know that.
     
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  20. mm2margaret

    mm2margaret Meagan

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    With all due respect, I think you're wrong. I think they've heard it, and they deserve all the credit in the world for creating a great series, even though this episode will probably always be controversial.
     

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