Game of Thrones 8x05 "The Bells" 5/12/19

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  1. May 12, 2019 #21 of 553
    mm2margaret

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    I'm thinking Dany will kill Jon. After all, he's a threat to her throne. There's a scene where the Unsullied leader (Greyworm) starts killing those soldiers who have laid down their swords, and Jon tries to stop the slaughter, and Greyworm turns and see this and gives him a bad look.....he will most probably take that to Dany and she would now have the reason to eliminate him.....

    In general, it was a grim episode. Most have believed, as I have, that Dany represented some good, and had good intentions. Maybe she did, and maybe she didn't, but the way it ended up was pretty gruesome. Too much coffee (Starbucks)?

    I don't think next week's episode will any less grim, either - just a lot less death. Oh, there will still be death, just not a half a million or so....Either Dany kills Jon, or Jon kills Dany....that's where I think it will end.
     
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  2. May 12, 2019 #22 of 553
    BeanMeScot

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    I really don't get why Dany went street by street destroying the city. If she wanted to destroy Cersei and not accept her surrender, then destroy the Red Keep. Cersei didn't give a crap about King's Landing or the people in it, really. I guess it's just supposed to show that she is now the Mad Queen and the Kingslayer is dead. Long live the new Queenslayer!
     
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  3. May 12, 2019 #23 of 553
    getbak

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    I think Jon pieced it together pretty quickly once Varys said he knew which way Jon's coin fell.

    He might know nothing, but he's not a complete idiot.
     
  4. May 12, 2019 #24 of 553
    cheesesteak

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    Jon should have kept his big, dumb mouth shut.

    Just a general question about the show's universe: How long has it been in GoT time since the first episode? Wasn't winter supposed to have come by now?
     
  5. May 12, 2019 #25 of 553
    TAsunder

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    I didn’t like a lot of plot points but that was nonetheless one of the most mesmerizing, incredible episodes of a tv show ever. It was like the nuclear holocaust equivalent of a dumpster fire. They ruined lots of things I cared about with terrible writing but, wow, that was amazing.
     
  6. May 12, 2019 #26 of 553
    mm2margaret

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    And, given that Dany's personally responsible for killing innocents, over a half million or so, and laying waste to the greatest city in Westeros, I wouldn't say Dany's as big a monster as Cersei, she's worse. Far worse...

    Let's remember, Dany accomplished what Jamie prevented her Father from doing.....destroying the city.
     
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  7. May 12, 2019 #27 of 553
    LordKronos

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    Burn them all!!!!!! (At least we did get a few small glimpses of wildfire in it all).

    There's absolutely no way Dany doesn't die now. Totly unnecessary on her part. Why not just save all of that fire for the red keep. Of course it wouldn't have been as interesting of an episode.

    I was a bit sad we started out with losing Varys. I liked him a lot. So who died tonight? Varys, Jamie, Cersei, Euron, Hound, Mountain, Qyburn. Who else (no, I'm not counting Strictland...seems odd to have even introduced a named character and have him go nowhere)

    I was confused when Dany called Grayworm Torgo Nudho. At first I thought it was his birthname he had given up. After some googling I see it's Grayworm in Valyrian. Had we heard he say that before?

    Anyone else have issues with HBO Now tonight? It wouldn't work for me on 2 different Chromecasts on 2 TVs. Tried hard reboots of both Chromecast and my phone. Since I purchased my HBO Now sub through Google play, I couldn't even seem to get my account to work on my wife's iPhone. I logged in and it recognized me but wouldn't play until I selected my subscription service, which wasn't even in the option list. I wasnt about to watch on my phone (would've been a crappy was to see this episode). Horray for being an honest paying customer and getting screwed over. Eventually had to sail the seas and plunder the episode.
     
  8. May 12, 2019 #28 of 553
    getbak

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    7 or 8 years or so. In the first season, Arya was about 10 or 11, and when people were complaining about her and Gendry getting together, the producers pointed out that she's now over 18.

    Winter has come. It arrived at the end of season 6. Apparently, King's Landing is far enough south that it doesn't get particularly harsh winters.
     
  9. May 12, 2019 #29 of 553
    astrohip

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    I think the one given is that both Jon and Dany don't make it. Which one? I'd say Jon wins the Game, but who knows.

    My money is on him killing her in the Throne Room.

    Couldn't get the episode to load. The app loaded fine, but the episode just buffered endlessly. I started about 30-40 minutes after the hour. After about five minutes, I gave up and watched it on Comcast thru my TiVo. I prefer the app, the resolution is higher.
     
  10. May 12, 2019 #30 of 553
    cheesesteak

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    At least we could see what was going on this episode!

    Drogon must have gotten outfitted with stealth technology in between episodes. He also did some impressive mean mugging right before he roasted Varys.

    I thought Varys was trying to poison Dany when his little kitchen spy girl said Dany had hardly eaten.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Dany flips everybody the bird and takes her dragon and armies back overseas where people are loyal to her and burns Winterfell to the ground as a parting gift to Jon and Sansa for betraying her.
     
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  11. May 12, 2019 #31 of 553
    morac

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    I watched on HBOGo on my Apple TV and it worked fine. I started about 20 minutes after the start.
     
  12. May 12, 2019 #32 of 553
    gossamer88

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    I thought the leader of the Golden Company was supposed to be more significant. Greyworm made sure he wasn't.

    BTW, episode title is The Bells.
     
  13. May 13, 2019 #33 of 553
    LordKronos

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    There were some really satisfying scenes. For some reason, I really like the nameless scorpion commander guy ordering "fire!" right as he is engulfer in flames.

    And of course the scene where (Qyburn) is talking Cersei. All we need is one good shot...(uh yeah, about that.) Euron killed one dragon, he can kill another....(uh, your grace....funny story...)

    On the other hand it was annyoying to see Euron die thinking he had a victory.

    I think the thing I'm most anxoius about now...what happens to Drogon when Dany dies.
     
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  14. May 13, 2019 #34 of 553
    photoshopgrl

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    I assume we'll have some final shot of him flying off into the skies.
     
  15. May 13, 2019 #35 of 553
    Jstkiddn

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    He was the type that no matter how he died, he would have done so thinking he had a victory.
     
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  16. May 13, 2019 #36 of 553
    Jstkiddn

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    Oh, I absolutely agree. Not only the line the girl said about Dany not eating, but when Varys replied, "We'll try again at supper", I don't think that leaves much doubt what they were attempting to do.
     
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  17. May 13, 2019 #37 of 553
    realityboy

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    After Dany kills Arya?
     
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  18. May 13, 2019 #38 of 553
    tivotvaddict

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    Now THAT was an episode! Wow. Just wow.

    Dany the Rage Queen. This character development felt earned. We've seen glimpses of this from the earlier seasons, and the events over the last few episodes made this pretty much inevitable. Dany's Qarth "hallucination" of the throne room buried in what we thought was snow, came true, but with ashes instead of snow.

    Edited to add: The Tyrion and Jamie scene was so well done. From the framing (Tyrion standing above his older brother for once) to their heartfelt goodbye, knowing they wouldn't see each other again, it was a sweet moment.

    Jamie stays true to his character. He will do anything for Cersei. He tried not to be that person, but in the end, it just isn't who he is.

    Clegane Bowl fulfilled. The brotherly hate was forged in fire and was finished in fire. And along the way he has a come to Jesus chat with Arya.

    Arya chooses life instead of death. Finally. The ending moments of this episode felt like the ending moments of Gladiator.
     
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  19. May 13, 2019 #39 of 553
    Jstkiddn

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    Does anyone know if there is any significance in Varys removing his rings as he hears the soldiers approaching? Other than a device to show he knows that his end has arrived?
     
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  20. May 13, 2019 #40 of 553
    uncdrew

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    That was awesome.

    And made sense. They got a lot right.

    You have the dragon, you win. She saw her friend and dragon die and didn’t immediately rush into battle. She strategically took out the boats and the scorpions.

    Cersei didn’t surrender. Dany didn’t back off and be open to more lies and tricks. She ended it. As she should have.

    That was great.
     

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