Game of Thrones 8x05 "The Bells" 5/12/19

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Rob Helmerichs, May 12, 2019.

  1. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004


    I apologize. Usually, it's the people who don't post a lot who try to troll (or Trolls are well known). I made an assumption given the history of this argument (dear Lord, it was a doozy back in the day) and I should have asked first.

    I am part of the community and I noticed what I thought was a trolling attempt and pointed it out before people fell for it. If that's a thread police, so be it. And, in that case, don't police the policeman ;) :p
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  2. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    Including all the grammar and spelling errors? :D I'm throwing stones from an all-glass house, I know, but I couldn't help making the joke :)

    I do disagree with one point: Janos mutinied. He didn't disagree with the commander, he outright refused a direct order in front of everyone and hoped to rally others to support his refusal. The penalty for that is death. Jon did nothing wrong there.
  3. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    And one of Jon's big character flaws is that he always does the "right thing," whether or not it's the right thing to do. Which often gets him in trouble.

    One of Dany's big character flaws is that you never know whether she'll do the "right thing," the right thing, or some entirely different thing.
  4. 3D

    3D Active Member

    Oct 9, 2001
    Plantation, FL.
    Thanks. That said, you might want to delete the quote from my original post, which I have since removed.
  5. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey


    Exactly! The one thing I can fault the writers for "rushing things". That's their own fault, but there might be a lot of behind the scenes stuff we are not privy to that causes this to happen. Maybe certain key actors were not keen on another season, or the expense of doing more episodes were prohibitive, or, maybe, they just got tired of it all and decided that this was enough. Who knows? But the writing itself has been stellar and remains so. If you start driving your self crazy with nitpicks, you'll never enjoy what you see. I notice them, and unless they are SO egregious that it ruins the story, I just don't care that much. Go on IMDB sometimes and look at just about every series and you'll find some weird continuity issues and other things.
  6. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    Done. I'm really sorry for not checking first.
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  7. TampaThunder

    TampaThunder Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2003
    Tampa, FL
    I'm just looking forward to the spinoff where Brienne, when she finds out Jaime is gone forever, runs north to the consoling arms of Tormund Giantsbane and they raise Jaime's love child, Brieamie <whatever bastards north of the Wall are called - maybe Glacier?> to be the world's most honorable, strongest, handsome/beautiful person ever conceived during a one-night stand and he/she eventually leads the united Wildlings south to King's Landing to wrest the Iron Throne from the evil Danerys Targaryen.

    ETA: The way things have been produced lately, this spinoff would just be three 45-minute episodes. :D
  8. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    Another theme of the series that we've seen play out over and over is that our heroes (and villains for that matter) rarely ever get what they want or are driven to. Net wanted the truth to be out there and lost his head because of it. Sansa wanted to be princess, and got tortured and raped for wanting it. Tyrion wanted respect, and while he got it from Jaime at the very end, Jaime dies, he never got it from Tywin or Cersie, and while he got it from Dany for awhile, in the end she turns mad and loses respect from her. Jon just wanted a life at the Wall, and ends up (well we don't know yet). Arya never gets to cross off all the names on her list, and lastly Dany wanted to be Queen, and ends up going B.S. crazy getting there (and I bet never gets to the Iron Throne).
  9. markp99

    markp99 TakoKichi TCF Club

    Mar 21, 2002
    Nashua, NH
  10. smbaker

    smbaker Well-Known Member

    May 24, 2003
    I do wonder if making this seasons episodes a little shorter, and adding four more episodes would have fixed the pacing issue this season.

    We didn't need an 80 minutes fight in the dark episode. We didn't need an 80 minute fight in the daytime episode. Sure, even cutting all the 80-minute episodes down to 60, you'd still have to add some more minutes. I just feel that ten episodes does a season justice.

    Regardless, I'm not bothered by Dany's quick turn to the dark side. Clearly they wanted her burning of the city to be a sudden / shock moment, and when we look back across the seasons, the signs are actually there. Many of us have previously commented on how she was more a conqueror than the leader, or how other people in her inner circle (particularly Jorah) were moderating forces upon her behavior. This isn't the series where the character you root for always has a happy ending, and we've liked it for that.
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  11. robojerk

    robojerk Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2006
    Laguna Hills CA
    Posting from my phone while watching Paw Patrol with my daughter. The writing is better on Nick Jr., Stole my full attention so I made some spelling and grammar errors. I'll own them.
  12. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    I didn't find an issue with the episode lengths (as usual, it was almost an hour into the episode before I realized what time it was, and could have watched another hour). I just think having the usual 10 episodes we saw earlier in the series would have worked. But, then I think about it, and everyone here would complain about an episode or two where "nothing happened" not realizing that they are setting us up for what comes next. That's what is "missing" this season, those setup episodes that when you go back and rewatch you realize what they were doing with those. I think back to the scene in S1 where Robert and Cersie have their conversation before Robert goes off on his "hunt". Without that, we might not have understood all of her motivations in having him murdered. Subtle little scenes that were missing this season. Not really complaining, but it would have helped some.
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  13. jakerock

    jakerock Hey ho howdy!

    Dec 9, 2002
    Lee, NH
    Split over four years.
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  14. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 1999
    Buffalo, NY
  15. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    A bit off topic, but I'm sick of Star Wars films. For me at least, it's kind of ruined what was so special about the original trilogy. And we know that Disney is just making these because they know they are guaranteed to make money, not for any type of need to tell this or that story. That said, I'm sure I'll go see them.
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  16. photoshopgrl

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

    Nov 22, 2008
    Boring Ohio
    I actually liked this. Usually these type of commentary videos annoy me but she really did touch on all the reasons we should have seen this coming. I appreciate Sunday's episode much more after the blog post I posted yesterday and this. I guess it's easy to forget the "bad" she's done because it all seemed for the overall good then. Now she has no slaves to free, nobody here needs saving from evil overlords and masters and don't want her. She loses everyone that could have tempered her true nature so yeah okay I'm down with her burning the city. I mean I hate that she did that and believe she must die now but I no longer am going to call foul on the writing so much.
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  17. BrettStah

    BrettStah Well-Known Member

    Nov 12, 2000
    San Antonio
    This is fundamentally different from other movies (especially blockbusters) how, exactly?
  18. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    Not at all. The only difference to me is the reverence of the original trilogy over any of the newer movies. There's something "special" about them. i don't feel that way about other movie series. But, like anything else, it's purely a subjective viewpoint.
  19. getreal

    getreal postcrastinator

    Sep 29, 2003
    Maybe (just my hypothesis) Drogon took on the powers of his/her dead siblings which multiplied his/her fire. And Drogon is now battle-tested and angrier than ever, so that might have an effect on "dragon-breath".
  20. mooseAndSquirrel

    mooseAndSquirrel Well-Known Member

    Aug 31, 2001
    Whatsamatta U
    Aw, you two. If only Dany and Cersei could have worked it out like that.
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