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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Rob Helmerichs, May 12, 2019.
Watching carefully the sequence of events...the Lannisters throw down their weapons and shouts ring out (ha ha) one after the other to "ring the bell" and it echoes all through the city. Drogon and Dany are atop of some wall. Cersei is watching from the Red Keep.
The bell tolls. Cersei closes her eyes in defeat. Her soldiers and her city have surrendered. Everyone relaxes just a little but Dany is disappointed, then gets madder...angrier...she looks at the red keep, she knows Cersei is there. Drogon takes off and she steers him towards the Red Keep...then the slaughter of civilians begins.
I think the key here is that Dany knew where Cersei was. She wasn't being systematic to make sure Cersei wasn't hiding in the slums. She had not had enough blood and wanted to burn the entire city down.
They won't love her, so they will fear her.
You mean how dragon fire could cause brick structures to suddenly explode? How can wooden ships compare then?
My point is that these ships and the ships at Mereen (or Yunkai) reacted very differently. These ships exploded. A few seasons ago, the other ships simply caught fire.
Maybe explained simply by Drogon being older/more powerful. But the difference was striking.
Parenting tip PSA: If your child is afraid and crying because of the war, death, and blood right outside; do hug your child and comfort her. However, do not do so with the window open and a dragon is flying buy burning everything in its path.
All I know is, the way these last few episodes have gone down, fan-wise, does not bode well for Star Wars fandom when Benioff & Weiss offer their take on that!
(Personally I’m not looking forward to them joining the SW ranks)
What about Big Bang The . . . oh wait, nevermind.
God no. If I'm Disney, I pull that contract and burn it with wildfire. Star Wars has enough problems already without these two bozos.
The funny/bad/good thing is that the big rumors are that the OTHER new trilogy has been killed.
two final observations as I finish the episode:
1. The closing credits is a new arrangement of "The Queen's Justice". We heard this at the end of the episode named "The Queen's Justice" which ended with Olena drinking the poison and the end of the Tyrells.
2. Dany reminds me of Little Finger. She is truly the queen of the ashes.
From your lips to The Maker's ears!
And BBT in the same week! No more Dany is not that insane or Penny is a drunk felon threads!
That may have been what was actually happening during the battle with the night king. It was so dark, who could tell?
Wow. I didn't know dragons had pin point accuracy with their flames. If I was standing next to Varys, I would have backed up a 100 yards or so.
Hmm, GREAT visual effects and lackluster dialogue and story? Sounds like they'll fit RIGHT in alongside Phantom Menace and Attack Of The Clones.
Now he knows.
I gave my wife a "Mother of Dragons" T-shirt for Mother's day.
As of 9pm last night she was still planning on wearing it to work today... As of 10pm, notsomuch.
For people questioning Daenerys' motivations, the "ends justify the means" attitude has been building in her character for some time.
First she was betrayed by Mirri, whom she had tried to help:
(And ironically, Mirri ended up becoming part of the ritual that brought Drogon into the world. What would have happened instead had she saved Drogo without having killed Daenerys' human child?)
(The Night King probably would have taken over Westeros.)
Then she was betrayed by Xaro, whom she thanked for teaching her "this lesson":
She punished both of them, and felt justified in doing so because they had betrayed her trust.
After that, she betrayed Kraznys:
Now, he was a horrible person as were all the masters. But still, none of those people had wronged her directly. However, she felt justified in taking the actions that she did in order to free the Unsullied.
Then, after taking Mereen, she punished the Great Masters for nailing the children to mileposts:
Barristan advised Daenerys to show mercy, but she responded that she would answer "injustice with justice". As in the case of Astapor, the Great Masters of Mereen had committed horrible deeds, so Daenerys felt justified in punishing them.
But things were not so simple because apparently not all of the Great Masters had agreed to those actions.
Still, one could argue that Hizdahr's father was guilty by association and could have done more to stop the others from having gone through with their deeds. I'm sure that's how Daenerys justified it to herself. But we saw Daenerys begin to become more comfortable with accepting collateral damage in order to achieve her goals.
She then decided to send Daario to Yunkai to kill all of the masters, and was only convinced otherwise when Jorah talked her down.
But when Barristan was killed, she decided to round up the leaders of the great families of Meereen in order to make an example of one of them:
She outright admitted that she had no idea of the innocence or guilt of any of them.
Finally, when Yunkai and Astapor attacked Meereen, Daenerys wanted to burn those cities to the ground:
Tyrion had to convince her to take a different route.
But by this episode, she no longer trusted his counsel, and there was nobody else left to hold her back.
With Jon pulling away from her, she now feels alone. Like her father, she fears people are plotting against her in the shadows of every corner. She's probably at least partially right about some of them, but her paranoia could be her undoing.