Game of Thrones 8/13/17 "Eastwatch"

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  1. Aug 14, 2017 #81 of 287
    Demandred

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    I don't think they're consistent about how the face magic works. Remember she also used Frey's face after killing him, so it seems like she can use any dead person's face. We've also seen other Faceless Men disguised as living people.
     
  2. Aug 14, 2017 #82 of 287
    JoeyJoJo

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    She was pretty deliberate to hold his head up while he bled out, she likely was doing the prep work to harvest his face.

    When have we seen any Faceless Men as living people?
     
  3. Aug 14, 2017 #83 of 287
    heySkippy

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    What face was Arya wearing when she killed Walder Frey?
     
  4. Aug 14, 2017 #84 of 287
    gossamer88

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    I believe it was one of his younger wives.
     
  5. Aug 14, 2017 #85 of 287
    jakerock

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    No it was one of his daughters.
    No it was one of his grand daughters.
    Oh heck let's just say we're all correct here.
     
  6. Aug 14, 2017 #86 of 287
    smak

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    It seems more and more Drogon is acting on direct verbal commands from Dany. So I'm not 100% sure she expected Drogon to roar at Jon there, but I think she was surprised that Drogon would let Jon get that close. I'm not sure what she thinks about that really. Maybe she thinks only Targaryen's can do that, but Tyrion came pretty close to doing the same with the other 2 dragons.

    -smak-
     
  7. Aug 14, 2017 #87 of 287
    DevdogAZ

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    Another question: Why does it matter which of the Targaryens (Dany or Jon) has the more legitimate claim to the Iron Throne? The Targaryens lost their claim to the throne when they were defeated and deposed during Robert's Rebellion. If Dany builds an army and wins a war to depose the current monarch, then she would be the rightful queen, because at that point the throne would belong to whoever took it by might, not whoever was entitled by lineage.

    I mean, isn't the Targaryen's claim to the throne based on them taking it in a war many centuries ago? So their claim is ultimately based on might, not birthright. And that would be the same with Dany, if she's the leader of the army that overthrows Cersei.
     
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    tomhorsley

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    "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony."

    Speaking of Monty Python, did the guards trying to keep Arya out of Winterfell remind anyone of guards from Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
     
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  9. Aug 14, 2017 #89 of 287
    Philosofy

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    Why don't the men in the north wear hats? I expect them to start doing the Safety Dance.
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Law isn't everything, but it's important. Dany isn't claiming the throne by right of conquest, she's claiming it by right of birth. Without that right of birth, she's literally no better than Cersei.
     
  11. Aug 14, 2017 #91 of 287
    Anubys

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    Frey wasn't like Caster...he even asked Arya if she was one of his. Once she said she was not, then he copped a feel.

    He had lots of wives, but never an implication of incest.

    Great. I'm defending Walder Frey!
     
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  12. Aug 14, 2017 #92 of 287
    Rob Helmerichs

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    I always had my suspicions about you... :D
     
  13. Aug 14, 2017 #93 of 287
    TonyD79

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    Do we know that for a fact?

     
  14. Aug 14, 2017 #94 of 287
    Rob Helmerichs

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    In Westeros, don't you have to be opposite sex and/or a sibling to marry?
     
  15. Aug 14, 2017 #95 of 287
    NorthAlabama

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    they could move to dorne. ;)
     
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    TonyD79

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    As far as we know, the only "moral" police got blown up last season in a whole bunch of green fire.
     
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    photoshopgrl

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    I am still wondering why Jon is keeping the knife in the heart story from Dany. This is twice now he's skirted around letting her know he was brought back.
     
  18. Aug 14, 2017 #98 of 287
    Rob Helmerichs

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    I think the reason is that the writers are planning on her (or her advisors) using it against him after she finds out who he is, but before she decides to deal with him. So for now they have to keep dangling it in front of us so it won't come out of nowhere when it happens. ;)
     
  19. Aug 14, 2017 #99 of 287
    photoshopgrl

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    I don't agree but you still made me chuckle.

    Also can someone tell my boy Petyr he's playing a game he can't win with Arya. I'm counting on his demise now. This can't end well for him.
     
  20. Anubys

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    I think my response to this can be summed up by this video from Murder by Death. In this video, I'm Peter Sellers and you're David Niven!



    Since nobody has come back from the dead before to contend for a throne, I see no reason why there would be some rule that it disqualifies you. In fact, since Dany's mythos is all about magic and surviving fire (she "died" twice in huge fires), I don't see why coming back from the dead isn't even MORE qualification for being worshiped/followed.

    What I think is happening is that Jon is his usual humble self and doesn't want to appear larger than life. When Dany discovers the truth, that will be the final discovery that will make her realize that he is "the one" for her. Jon is the eventual King of Westeros. He's the only one who doesn't want it and thus is best suited for the job.

    Everything I've seen so far from the author makes this conclusion very likely in my mind.
     
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