Game Of Thrones 6-7-2015 The Dance of Dragons

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  1. LordKronos

    LordKronos Well-Known Member

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    Just for the record (in case you didn't catch who said what), I'll state I was being facetious in that post. Your reply (which I agree with completely, and is exactly what I've been trying to say) really should have quoted tivoboyjr, who is the one who actually said great strategists don't get blindsided.
     
  2. Anubys

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    Of course it's silly. But it's your argument, not mine. The show establishes "truths" by having people tell you the history by talking about it. It's why we had all those sex and brothel scenes early in seasons 1 and 2.

    People talk to each other about things that are known or have happened in the past. Some of these things is the story of Castamere or Ser Barrister's fighting prowess. You did not see them, but they happened. And one of these things is that that Stannis is a an excellent fighter and military leader because of all the battles he has won.

    So to dismiss the history that has been told to us by NUMEROUS well-informed people in Westeros and which has been established as historical fact on the show because they didn't show it to you is what is silly.

    I'm not denying that he has not had a good run on the show, but I am not denying what the show has established as fact about Stannis before we ever laid eyes on him.
     
  3. TAsunder

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    We saw him fight a bit in earlier seasons, didn't we?
     
  4. pjenkins

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    Then you agree with me. The show has done a POOR job of showing much about how great Stannis is on the leadership front.


    Perhaps it's the same as Barrister - Stannis WAS a great military commander, but in the current events of the show, for whatever reasons, he's not what he was :)
     
  5. Anubys

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    I think we can all agree that he is excellent at burning people.
     
  6. Anubys

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    I don't recall that. But don't count on my memory!
     
  7. Rob Helmerichs

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    Just goes to show what happens when people let religion interfere with their lives... :D
     
  8. pjenkins

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    LOL! Still feel horrible for Shireen, such a well done bit of film making. Watched the episode again last night for the fourth time and it was still gut wrenching...
     
  9. Anubys

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    An earlier poster (sorry, too lazy to find out who) said the screams were worse the second time he/she watched.

    I remember thinking how true that was when I later watched the episode again.
     
  10. LordKronos

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    That was me. The first time through, she's screaming away, but you aren't focused on that... You're busy thinking "is stannis gonna relent? Will her mother stop it? Is Davis going to ride back in the nick of time? Is her grayscale + fire going to turn her into a dragon?" (Okay, maybe not the last one, but after all the dialogue devoted to it, I thought it was going to be for some reason...other than establishing how strong their bond is just so stannis can break it). On the second time through, your just thinking "OK, she's gonna die now. Yep she's screaming. She's really screaming. Wow, she's sure screaming a lot. Wow, those are some really terrible scream. Wow, the screaming hasn't stopped yet. OK that was her last scream. Ohh, no it wasn't. "
     
  11. bobino

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    We actually don't know if he's good at burning people. Have you seen him burn anyone? Is that all just talk from characters that saw him burn someone before the story starts?

    Stannis didn't even burn Shireen. He doesn't have the honor shown by the Starks. If that was so, he would have started the fire instead of allowing Melisandre to do it.

    The only think we know he's good at is fathering a smokey ghost by a Red Priestess. But no one talks about that. Apparently he could only do it once.
     
  12. JYoung

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    I'm guessing there are performance issues.
     
  13. Rob Helmerichs

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    Can't she just whip up some magical Viagra?

    Who would she have to kill?
     
  14. john4200

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    Pod, perhaps. Apparently he is good in that department. If you believe what others say about him...
     
  15. tlc

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    Tonight on "How it's Made", the "Epic Fantasy Where Lots of Characters Die Edition".
     
  16. tlc

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    No we can't believe that. They haven't shown us.
     
  17. JYoung

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    I'd suggest Prince Oberyn but he's already dead.

    Or is that why Dwarf parts are so prized?
     
  18. Anubys

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    According to Tyrion, only if you suck on the parts.
     
  19. Rob Helmerichs

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    But what does Tyrion know about magic?
     
  20. gossamer88

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    I rewatched last night. Before Drogon came to save the day, I thought Dany closed her eyes as a sign that she was going to die. Looking at it again, it seemed it was more like she was about to communicate to Dragon, which of course was no longer necessary as he sensed she was in danger.
     

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