Game of Thrones 6/12/16 No One S06E08

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  1. Rob Helmerichs

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    I don't know...by the time the Night King got to King's Landing, the vast majority of Westeros would be wall-to-wall zombies...that would be a mighty Pyrrhic victory!
     
  2. su719

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    Most interesting use of he wildfire stash would be for Cersei to use it to kill the High Sparrow before her trial, by only setting off a portion of it. However she would have miscalculated like she always does killing Tommen and setting off a good portion of it, if not all, of it, leveling most of King's Landing. Since Jamie sacrificed everything to stop the Mad King from doing this and most of his actions (Ned, Bran, Myrcella, the war, and Riverrun) a have been because of his love for Cersei it would be the ultimate ironic twist for the Lannisters.
     
  3. nickels

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    I 100% believe she accidentally kills Tommen with it in the process. I am ready with my Nelson laugh when it happens. HAHA!
     
  4. Anubys

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    But would they all remain "alive" once the Night King is dead?

    I'm pretty sure what people are saying is what will come about; just as Tywin said, Cersei is not nearly as smart as she thinks she is. I was just trying to think of some wild/alternate way it could go.
     
  5. BeanMeScot

    BeanMeScot Sci-Fi Junkie

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    Wildfyre won't kill the Night King. It will kill the Wights but not White Walkers (the Night King is the head WW). WW can only be killed by Dragonglass or Valerian Steel (that we know of).
     
  6. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I would suspect they can also be killed by fire from dragons.
     
  7. pendragn

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    I also suspect we will find that out for certain before this show is over.
     
  8. JYoung

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    It would also be a pyrotechnic victory.
     
  9. BrettStah

    BrettStah Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    What if the dragons gargle with wildfire? That should kill anything, right?
     
  10. Kablemodem

    Kablemodem Get the ketchup.

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    Just baddragonbreath.
     
  11. Anubys

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    Did they say that one the show? I don't recall that at all.
     
  12. robojerk

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    I suspect the fire we recently saw extinguish as the Night King walk through was because it was so cold. I think Wildfyre, and dragons fire is much more hotter, and will burn him like a cripsy critter. But who knows.
     
  13. JoeyJoJo

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    Syrio had Arya chasing cats through Kings Landing as part of her Water Dancer training.

    The final scene was a little sloppy, but I watched the chase closely. I think the showrunners were having a bit of fun with the "Waif is Arya" rumor (maybe they even planted it). In the chase scene, the Waif didn't touch anyone until almost the end, after Arya jumped and landed on the oranges.

    He definitely smiled at her. I'm still curious what he was doing in a dungeon in Kings Landing when Eddard was beheaded. Perhaps this path was determined long before Arya went to Braavos.
     
  14. DreadPirateRob

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

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    Jon killed a WW in the Hardhome ep with his Valyrian steel sword (Longclaw - that he got from Jeor Mormont).
     
  15. Anubys

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    I wasn't clear...I was asking about the assertion that wildfire can't kill the Night King or the White Walkers.

    So far, we KNOW valyrian steel and dragon glass kills WW (we know nothing about what kills the Knight King).

    We assume dragon fire kills them. The post I commented on asserted that wildfire will NOT kill them. So I was asking how she knew that or if it's an assumption (like dragon fire).
     
  16. BeanMeScot

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    It's an assumption. We know Dragon Glass can kill them and Dragon Glass comes from Dragon Fire. The Dragon Glass is created by the dragons blowing fire on sand (like the creation of Fulgarite from lightening) so it is reasonable that Dragon Fire has the potential to kill them.

    Wildfire is a chemical cocktail that was created by the Maesters in Kings Landing. I doubt anyone has ever tried it on a WW since it is very difficult to transport and KL is very far from The Wall, let alone the land where the WW's roam. But, I find it doubtful there will be any relationship there. I would bet that the Dragons have a hand (or paw) in creating Valerian steel somehow as well and what we will find is that the only thing that can truly stop the WW's are dragons and things created from dragons. The return of the WW's is why the Dragons returned. They are meant to face each other.
     
  17. DreadPirateRob

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    Got it. Yeah, I wasn't sure what you were referring to, so I thought maybe it was Valyrian steel.

    I'm with most people in that I assume that dragon fire will kill the WW. Both dragonglass and Valyrian steel arguably descend from dragon fire, so there's no reason to not believe that dragon fire will kill WW as well.
     
  18. robojerk

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    I don't think this is a spoiler. In the books, they describe Valyrian steel also involving magic in the forging process, and knowledge of that magic has been lost for a long, long time. It does kind of make me wonder about Brienne's sword "Oathkeeper" and Joffrey's Tommen's sword "Widow's Wail" and their effectiveness against a WW.
     
  19. markbox

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    Agreed.

    I suspect that the Maesters in Kings Landing derived wildfire from the chemical process used by Dragons to breath fire. If so, and if the forging of Valerian steel involves the use of dragon fire, then perhaps that leads to the possible conclusion that not only does Valerian steel and dragon glass kill WWs so does dragon fire and wildfire.
     
  20. cherry ghost

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    Where'd you get that from?
     

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