Game of Thrones 5/22/16 "The Door"

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  1. May 22, 2016 #1 of 294
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Well, dang! Bran sure messed up Hodor's life real good, didn't he?

    I guess Hodor really did have only one thought on his mind...
     
  2. May 22, 2016 #2 of 294
    SoupMan

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    Another wolf gets slaughtered. :(
     
  3. May 22, 2016 #3 of 294
    pendragn

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    That scene legitimately brought a tear to my eye. Damn.
     
  4. May 22, 2016 #4 of 294
    photoshopgrl

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    I'm so angry. Why did Summer have to go. That's two in a row. I didn't need to see that. Now we have only Ghost and Nymeria running out there somewhere maybe. :(

    And Hodor ....... I'm just..... I don't have anything to say other than that sucked. I want a redo. :mad:

    I'm going to bed angry, I'll make another post tomorrow from work once I've thought more on this episode.
     
  5. May 22, 2016 #5 of 294
    gossamer88

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    Da boogie...
    I'll re-watch eventually, but what did Sansa "not say" that Brienne called her on?
     
  6. May 22, 2016 #6 of 294
    SoupMan

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    I think it was that she learned about Uncle Blackfish and his army at Riverrun from Little Finger, not from her time with Ramsay. I need a re-watch to be sure, but that was my first thought.
     
  7. May 22, 2016 #7 of 294
    gossamer88

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    Oh right! Thanks! Why on earth would she protect Baelish at this point?
     
  8. May 22, 2016 #8 of 294
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Protecting him, or not giving him credit?
     
  9. May 22, 2016 #9 of 294
    JFriday

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    Man this season has been great. Seems like every episode has a wow moment.
     
  10. May 22, 2016 #10 of 294
    Tracy

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    Hodor. :(
     
  11. May 22, 2016 #11 of 294
    TonyD79

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    'Ho' D'Door is his formal name.
     
  12. May 22, 2016 #12 of 294
    MacThor

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    She also didn't tell Jon that the banners of the Vale are willing to enter the fray.
     
  13. May 22, 2016 #13 of 294
    astrohip

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    When Meera, Hodor & Bran were escaping down the tunnel, I kept expecting the Frozen Donkey Wheel to be around the next bend.
     
  14. May 22, 2016 #14 of 294
    john4200

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    So Bran did not get to see the end of the flashback at the Tower of Joy. I wonder if he can have visions of his own now, without the old man in the tree.
     
  15. May 22, 2016 #15 of 294
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    When Meera was trying to wake Bran up, and telling him that he needed to control Hodor, I was hoping he would somehow be able to link future Hodor's mind to past Hodor's mind in order to restore it, thus allowing Hodor to act independently while Bran was finishing his conversion. But unfortunately exactly the opposite happened. I'm not sure if he was attempting to do what I thought he might or he just accidentally warged the wrong Hodor.

    I suppose the silver lining in all of this is the knowledge that Bran can influence the past. Perhaps he will plant and has planted seeds throughout time in order to slowly turn the tide in The War. Was what happened between Ned and his sister one of those times? On the other hand, he might be too scared of trying due to what happened with Hodor.

    So the White Walkers were created with dragon glass, probably specifically to fight dragons brought by humans. The question is, did the Children create dragons to fight humans, and then the humans turned the dragons against them, or did the dragons come from Essos, having already been tamed (or even created) by humans, specifically to fight the Children?

    That's what I'm thinking. She doesn't want Jon (or anyone else) to know about her connection with him. It could make her look weak (having been manipulated by him) or untrustworthy (having been in league with him). I'm not sure how she's explained having fled King's Landing though, or if anyone has even asked. I guess she could have said it was the Boltons who arranged the whole thing.

    Unfortunately, keeping Petyr out of the picture could be her undoing. I wonder if he was counting on her not trusting a raven to get in touch with the Blackfish, and sending Brienne instead. Was what he said true, or is Brienne walking into a trap? Perhaps both, if his goal was to intercept her on her way. He stops her, leaks information to Ramsay about the Blackfish and his army's whereabouts, and a potential alliance with Jon, then Ramsay's army takes them out.

    So then Ramsay's army is weakened, but Jon has lost a key ally. Oh look, here comes the Vale to the rescue, and all thanks to Petyr. The question is, will he demand Sansa's hand in marriage in exchange for that, or betray Jon at a point when both his and Ramsay's armies are the most vulnerable?

    If the former, then I think she would clearly beat Margaery in the category of "worst luck with marriage". She might have already beaten Margaery with Ramsay vs. Joffrey, especially given that Margaery didn't have to suffer through much of hers. Plus, there's also the fact that Margaery was actively seeking out those marriages for her own selfish reasons, while Sansa was forced into one, and manipulated into another. But a marriage to Petyr would make her undoubtedly the winner.
     
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  16. May 23, 2016 #16 of 294
    BitbyBlit

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    I think so. The old man knew that his home had been compromised, but at the same time told Bran that Bran would become him. If that particular tree was needed, it would have been useless to do anything. Plus, Bran was still in the vision while disconnected from the tree.

    I'm not sure if he can see any new visions right now, though, or will need to grow/become a tree in order to do so. If the latter, then he just needs to remember: location, location, location.
     
  17. May 23, 2016 #17 of 294
    BitbyBlit

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    Speaking of the wolves, if Bran is afraid to control humans across time, perhaps he could control animals. Was he the one who sent mama direwolf down south for the Starks to find her cubs?

    If so, then there's hope for Nymeria. Perhaps he's been warging into her to keep her safe. It would be poetic justice if she turned the tide of the battle between Jon and Ramsay by jumping in, and ripping Ramsay to shreds. Although I suppose that honor could also go to Ghost. Maybe both of them, tag teaming.
     
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    DavidTigerFan

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  19. May 23, 2016 #19 of 294
    Robin

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    Because she didn't want to argue about it. Jon would have accepted their assistance.
     
  20. May 23, 2016 #20 of 294
    MacThor

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    I was responding to the question about Sansa's lies to Jon.
     

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