Future of CableCARD by EDITOR

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Pacomartin, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. Nov 17, 2015 #981 of 2036
    DCIFRTHS

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    In a word: Slang
     
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    brewman

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    Can't :) say that I've ever seen a thread run further off topic than this one. Typically, off topic posts in this forum are at least still technology related.
     
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    Bigg

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    Then add in weird differences between proper British English, Australian English, and American English, which is basically one written language, but spoken a bit differently in different parts of the US. It's a nightmare. Then again Spanish and French have the same problems, they aren't one single language either.
     
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    JoeKustra

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    You must be very young. :D
     
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    HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    You must've missed some of my political and religious rants then! :p
     
  6. Nov 18, 2015 #986 of 2036
    lessd

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    Back to cable cards please, I am not looking for English lessons.
     
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    HarperVision

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    Well that doesn't bode well for your statement. :rolleyes:

    I agree though, back to the topic at hand. :)
     
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    trip1eX

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    Yep.
     
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    Dan203

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    Yeah, sorry my bad. Should have known that wouldn't lead anywhere good.
     
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    Dan203

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    I love this part....

    Gee which of those two groups has a financial interest in saying that things are just fine the way they are? :rolleyes:
     
  12. Dec 3, 2015 #992 of 2036
    HarperVision

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    ....And the misinformation continues!

    I'm not sure what they're talking about with the ad revenue and stuff? I thought all that AllVid did was strip out the GUI and menu type stuff but leaves the raw video, INCLUDING COMMERCIALS, etc. in the stream from the broadcaster, MSO, etc.? Is this not true? That's not how they make it sound to me.

    They also keep talking about having to add a box, but I just don't see it if the client has a modem/gateway already from their MSO. It seems this would just replace that, no? I know we've talked about this before, but the brainwashing of these groups seems to really working and TiVo and the others really needs to step it up to prove these things about AllVid just aren't true (at least what I think I know about it).

    Dan, any way you can assist, being a moderator here? Maybe we can get some sort of grass roots thing going here to lobby against this? Change.Org?
     
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  13. Dec 3, 2015 #993 of 2036
    Bigg

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    Yeah, that is sort of funny, but it's interesting to see this fight because it's not a moneyed interest against the people, it's one moneyed interest against another, with the people clearly on the side of the CE manufacturers.
     
  14. Dec 3, 2015 #994 of 2036
    slowbiscuit

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    WTH is the black caucus talking about? Renting more equipment? How does that jive with all their constituents being forced to rent STBs today when AllVid would remove the need to do that? And AllVid has nothing to do with 'consumer protections concerning privacy, emergency alerts, children's programming and more'. This stuff is already protected with other regs.

    I have no idea what the point of this letter is except as FUD from being bought off by the cableCos (what I suspect is happening here).
     
  15. Dec 3, 2015 #995 of 2036
    Dan203

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    That's such BS! The "ads" the MSOs are worried about being stripped are the ones they place in their guide and the way their search feature pushes people toward their own VOD offerings. There is nothing AllVid would change compared to CableCARD that would make it easier for device makers to replace or remove commercials in the actual content.

    The MSOs have either lobbied these guys with misinformation or they simply misunderstood the information they were given.

    I tried to write to Representative Clarke, but since I'm not in her district her website wont allow it. :thumbsdown: I could write to my own congressman, but since he's a very pro-business Republican I doubt he'd care.
     
  16. Dec 3, 2015 #996 of 2036
    Dan203

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    You're right that there are financial gains to be had on both sides, but one side clearly favors consumers and promotes the free market while the other just wants things to stay locked down so they can continue to pad their bottom line.
     
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    HarperVision

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    I am, and I care! :)
     
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    tarheelblue32

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    The Congressional Black Caucus has either been bribed or duped. Corruption or incompetence, take your pick.
     
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    BobCamp1

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    That's not BS. The ads are everywhere. They're on the main menu, they're hidden as a channel, they're on the VoD screen, and they're clearly on the home page of the box. On the VoD/PPV screen, there are suggested movies and fights to watch. On a Tivo, they're even on the status bar when you pause!

    This is all about ad revenue, and he who controls the box controls the revenue.
     
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    BobCamp1

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    Is the side that promotes the free market the same side that sues any DVR or smartphone manufacturer out of that same market when their company name doesn't rhyme with "Devo"?

    Neither side wants a free market. They want it all to themselves. The "free market" from what I can tell consists of Tivo, Amazon (who already has Fire TV), and Google. Maybe Sony and Microsoft from a gaming console perspective. That's not a free market, you're already starting with an oligopoly and the standard hasn't even been developed yet.

    I don't see any real consumer demand, and I don't see a lot of manufacturers clamoring to build the devices.
     

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