Fringe - "Subject 13"

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  1. dianebrat

    dianebrat wait.. I did what? TCF Club

    Jul 6, 2002


    different strokes, different folks..
    personally I thought it was one of the best hours of Fringe they've done, this season has just been amazing as far as I'm concerned.
  2. tivogurl

    tivogurl New Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    Didn't it scare him so bad Olivia had to shoot him?
  3. BitbyBlit

    BitbyBlit .

    Aug 25, 2001
    Also, Olivia didn't remember setting the room on fire with her mind. I think I would remember setting a room on fire with my mind or being sick to the point of almost dying far better than one encounter with another person when he or she was a kid.

    The only question is, was it something unnatural that was done to them, or was it something their own minds did to block out something?

    If Clark Kent didn't have super powers, and his parents didn't tell him about the spacecraft they found him in, I think he would have rationalized away his memories of Krypton as being just a dream.

    Being taken from another world at the bottom of a lake by parents who look identical to yours or setting fire to a room with one's mind are not ordinary circumstances even in the world of Fringe, so as the kids who experienced those things grew up, they might have brushed away those memories as fantasy.

    On the other hand, Olivia didn't remember the school or Walter at all, something we've known since we saw the video tape of her back in Season 1. So not remembering the events around the school has been planned by the writers for some time, and Rob might be right about Episode III. :D
  4. BitbyBlit

    BitbyBlit .

    Aug 25, 2001
    I think that was intentional. I interpreted it as a joke that they had Walter have this big buildup about calling Social Services. What I'm unclear about is if Walter said "Social Services" because he wasn't allowed to talk about his real connections or he was making a big deal about his Social Services connections. Either way, I found it funny.
  5. logic88

    logic88 Well-Known Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Land Of...


    Yeah, I didn't think much of this episode either and started to read my RSS feeds in the middle of it. Interesting how polarizing this episode is. You either love it or hate it.

    As for Walter's talk with the stepdad, he did follow up the threat of informing Social Services with "In which case, I have certain government friends who could ensure that you will be facing significant troubles for yourself".

    P.S. Was that a Mac SE that I saw? They weren't available until 1987, right? [Edit: I guess since this was Blue Universe, the SE could have been pushed up...]
  6. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    Loved it....
  7. danterner

    danterner Not it!

    Mar 4, 2005
    Greenacres, FL
    So Walternate was the architect of the Star Wars Defense Initiative, according to the news report playing in the background. Would have been a cool nod to Nemoy if they had called it the Star Trek Defense Initiative, instead (though admittedly that doesn't work as well as a program name).
  8. Johnny Dancing

    Johnny Dancing Closet Rebel

    Sep 3, 2000
    Based on the desktop computers and other technology they were still using in alt world, it does not seem they had the technology to have built an effective star wars defense.

    I liked the episode but found it depressing.
  9. AlphaDelta

    AlphaDelta Member

    Jan 9, 2007
    Ann Arbor, MI
    I'm thinking that Elizabeth killing herself will be the trauma that causes Peter to forget he's from the other universe.
  10. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    but what about Olivia?

    my prediction is that Walter uses one of the kids (whose ability is to control memory) to wipe out the memory of the place...

    I'm not saying that we met this kid, just that will meet him/her
  11. robojerk

    robojerk Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2006
    Laguna Hills CA
    Bell could have been the one to wipe Olivia's memories.
  12. Amnesia

    Amnesia The Question

    Jan 30, 2005
    Boston, MA
    What was the name of the kid who was friends with young Olivia in this episode? Have we the grown-up version of him?
  13. gchance

    gchance 4 8 15 16 23 42

    Dec 6, 2002
    Olivehurst, CA
    I just got a new TV as well, but didn't you notice the commercials looked fine? :)

    What blew the episode for me was having Battlestar Galactica toys at the toy store in 1985. PUH-LEEZE.

  14. Cainebj

    Cainebj Well-Known Member

    Nov 10, 2006
    New York
    I am in the minority with you.
    I had to control my TiVo fast forward button finger - which I say won out 35% of the time.

    the 80s video effect was so bad that at one point i thought maybe it was in 3D and i missed the memo.

  15. rgr

    rgr Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    Remind me again, what are commercials?
  16. robojerk

    robojerk Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2006
    Laguna Hills CA
    Clips of video created solely for the purposes of advertising. Advertising is what pays for the shows you watch. If you're a nielson household I pray to god you never fast forward through TV shows I like (example Fringe) and watch them as they air. If you're not a nielson household then your viewing habits don't matter.
  17. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    Viewing habits have no bearing on Nielsen; you just fill in the book no matter what you actually watch....
  18. gchance

    gchance 4 8 15 16 23 42

    Dec 6, 2002
    Olivehurst, CA
    "This TV show looks fuzzy, I wonder if the commercials are fuzzy, too? <check> Nope. <skip>"

    I'd certainly do that before I mucked with TV controls. But that's just me.

  19. scooterboy

    scooterboy Coney Island Small

    Mar 27, 2001
    I assume you mean the boy that wanted the stuffed animal between his feet at the beginning?

    I didn't catch his name, so not sure if we've seen him as an adult.
  20. JYoung

    JYoung Series 3

    Jan 16, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Not necessarily, many Nielsen households have a box attached to the TV that monitors what you watch.

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