Fringe - "Subject 13"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by spikedavis, Feb 26, 2011.

  1. spikedavis

    spikedavis New Member

    Nov 23, 2003


    No, we've seen before that she did it as a child.
  2. DouglasPHill

    DouglasPHill Cynical old guy

    Feb 10, 2005
    St Louis, MO
    I am in the minority here, I did not like the ep. Seemed like a filler ep until the end where they finally showed how Peter met Olivia.
  3. vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Oct 27, 2000
    Olive has awesome powers but no easy way to control or trigger them.
  4. eddyj

    eddyj SeƱor Member TCF Club

    Jun 20, 2002
    South Florida
    I'm not sure what they were trying to accomplish with the out of focus stuff. Some stuff was sharp. I tried ti find a pattern, but could not. It was just annoying.
  5. robojerk

    robojerk Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2006
    Laguna Hills CA


    I loved the episode.... I hope they do another flashback episode to explain the rest of the lore.

    However, if I were Walter trying to get kids to travel to a parallel universe I would hope he would bring his viewer with him to see what was there in the other universe. Seems very sloppy of him to be doing these experiments where in the other universe they're at a private facility with high security, and especially sloppy to be doing these experiments at a facility where Walternate works.

    I can forgive them (the writers), it made the ending very powerful with little Oliva talking to Walternate.
  6. vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Oct 27, 2000
    Yeah, I seem to recall that he smashed the viewer, but I have wondered why he has never used it again, even in present time.

    Unless it also has the same negative effects on the universe as crossing over.
  7. tivogurl

    tivogurl New Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    In the episode where Olivia returned to Jacksonville as an adult the walls in the classroom of the abandoned Jacksonville facility were scorched.
  8. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    Plus they showed video of Olive torching it, which was probably a bigger clue. :D
  9. Family

    Family Well-Known Member

    Jul 23, 2001
    Count me as one of the few who did not like this episode.

    I agree that there has to be another 80's episode to tie this together, but it will be cheap if they resort to cutting/wiping the brain. It becomes like time travel or JR's dream... you can do any inconsistency and make like it never happened. That's not good writing IMO.
  10. vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Oct 27, 2000
    We know Peter somehow forgets. He's said before that he doesn't even remember being sick.
  11. hummingbird_206

    hummingbird_206 Retired

    Aug 22, 2007
    Valley of...
    I'm with you two. This ep just didn't do it for me. I had to force myself to NOT use the ff button. I think the info we got in this ep is needed, but they just drug it out way to much for me.
  12. JYoung

    JYoung Series 3

    Jan 16, 2002
    Los Angeles
    I think that they were trying to simulate the upconversion of a 480i 1985 video tape that had varying degrees of quality and may had suffered some degradation.

    Oh, and great episode.
    I noticed that Walter had a Commodore Pet on his desk while Walternate just had a large CRT monitor on his.
  13. Kamakzie

    Kamakzie Are you serious bro?

    Jan 7, 2004
    I loved how they filmed the camcorder footage in 4x3. I noticed it right away. My Dad was complaining about the video quality throughout. I thought it looked like they used a soft light/lens or something like they did on the old Star Trek series with the beautiful women.
  14. whitson77

    whitson77 Active Member

    Nov 10, 2002
    That was a great ep. I hope it gets one more season or two to finish telling the story.
  15. Timbeau

    Timbeau Well-Known Member

    May 31, 2002
    Wow, that's an hour of my life I'll never get back. Well, a half hour anyway thanks to the 30 second skip. Boy did that stink.

    Peter not remembering being kidnapped at that age? And not remembering Olivia? Not a chance. Not ever. Anyone who can convince themselves that Peter and Olivia wouldn't remember those events really has to want to believe it.

    But my main problem with the episode was that it was boooooooring. I'm sure Walter felt guilty about kidnapping Peter, but geez the episode didn't have to go on and on about it. Oh but wait. Didn't Walter have Bell do surgery on his brain because he was such a bad unfeeling guy? And didn't we hear in one of the previous episodes just how bad a guy Walter was? That doesn't sound like the Walter we saw in this episode.

    I did love Walter's talk with the stepdad. "If you don't stop this right away I'm going to call Social Services!!!" Boy that must have scared the stepdad half to death.
  16. justen_m

    justen_m Cheesehead TCF Club

    Jan 14, 2004
    Boise, ID
    I was LOL at that. I was expecting some dire threat and vague hints to his highly placed government connections in the DOD, CIA, FBI or something. Social services? Really?
  17. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    But they haven't explained yet what happened. The story isn't over yet.
    Again, they haven't gotten there yet. I suspect he decides to have the surgery when he sees what Walternate is up to, and doesn't want to become him.
  18. teknikel

    teknikel Member

    Jan 27, 2002
    I thought the video effect sometimes looked as though I was watching a 3D movie without the glasses. the blurriness had some color "morays".
  19. spikedavis

    spikedavis New Member

    Nov 23, 2003
    Also Walter chose to be lobotomized so that he could never remember to build another machine to open a door to Over There-the side effect of being lobotomized was that he became the forgetful, toned-down unambitious Walter.
  20. wkearney99

    wkearney99 Bill Kearney

    Dec 5, 2003
    Bwahahahahahahahah, oh wait, you're serious? About tv writing?

    We all hope they won't screw up a program we like but they always do. It's inevitable.

    I didn't like the episode much either.

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