Fox cancels 4 shows...

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  1. allan

    allan Just someone TCF Club

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    One of the reasons I liked Human Target is that it was less "serialized" than most shows. If I missed an ep, it had little impact on future episodes, unlike 24/Prison Break/Heroes.
     
  2. CatScratchFever

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    our informal rule is once a show is cancelled we delete all remaining shows and the SP. I'm going to make an exception with Human Target though, I've been saving the remaining shows for later in the summer.
     
  3. marksman

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    I realize now that the key demographics are not so much so that advertisers only want those people, it is essentially a ruse put together by advertisers to combat the voodoo magic of advertisment pricing by tv and radio over the years.

    There has never been a good way to track the value of most tv and radio advertising, so it is a bit magic, and the network's want to squeeze every dollar out of it. To combat this, and to narrow the number, they pick the toughest demographic and then peg their spending to that number. So it is not so much about advertisers just wanting those people, it is about advertisers wanting to reduce their advertising spend at the hands of tv networks and radio stations over the years.

    It is the same reason why advertisers are balking about paying for longer viewing periods on dvrs. It is not so much that there is not value in those people, it is that the advertisers want to keep their costs down against a business partner who is looking to maximize their revenue on their backs at every turn.

    Proof enough of this is to look how long 18-49 has been the key demographic in tv, and how it has not changed in a very long time, and how much the world we live in and how people have actually changed in terms of demographics and behavior over that same period of time. It does not match up at all.
     
  4. Jon J

    Jon J Curmudgeon TCF Club

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    I hope Chicago Code resolves the crooked councilman story arc.
     
  5. CatScratchFever

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    Hey Spoilers!!! <just kidding> ;)
     
  6. eddyj

    eddyj SeƱor Member TCF Club

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    Both the networks and the advertisers are terrified that if they try to get better numbers, they will get screwed. Under the current flawed system, they can predict costs (whether they are real of not). So nothing changes.
     
  7. ClutchBrake

    ClutchBrake Pass the gravy!

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    Or Idiocracy.
     
  8. jeff125va

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    I loved this show, bought the DVD's when they came out with the intention of watching the entire series in the correct order, but I'm ashamed to admit I haven't gotten around to it yet. Sienna Miller was great but count me as a big fan of Miss Moneypenny.

    Definitely bummed about HT and LTM but not surprised. I was going to check out Breaking In because I've liked Christian Slater's other shows but now probably won't bother.
     
  9. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Lie To Me never did all that well when FOX originally premiered it with lots of promotion during the NFL playoffs. Since then, they've only kept it around as schedule filler. If they weren't using it for that, it would have been gone a while ago. Be grateful for what you got.
    Alfer, your comment reeks of "lowest common denominator America." Most of what thrives on the broadcast networks is the uninteresting crap that doesn't require much thought or attention to watch. It's the truly interesting stuff that gets canceled because there aren't enough smart viewers out there to get the ratings the broadcast networks need. This is why more and more, the best shows are airing on cable nets, where they can produce their smart shows without needing to dumb them down for mass audiences and without needing to get the kind of ratings that the broadcast networks need.
    It's not just about movies. It's about pop culture, in general. Movies, music, TV, etc. But even if you don't get some of the inside jokes, there is still lots of good character interaction and humor. You should give it another try.
    CBS gave Chaos all the chances they needed to. It was DOA before it ever aired a single episode. When a show doesn't debut until April, then gets stuck on Friday, then all the critics hate it, you can bet it's not going to be around for long.
    You're close. The advertisers would love to advertise to all demographics. However, advertising is very expensive during prime time on the broadcast networks. It's also the time when the most people are watching. So they gear their prime-time ads toward the hardest to reach segment of the population (Adults 18-49). Kids under 18 don't have a lot of disposable income and they are easy to market to with kid-specific channels. People over 50 generally watch a lot more TV and therefore, they are easier to reach during times when advertising is not so expensive (check out the ads during daytime TV). This is why the broadcast networks focus so much on 18-49 during prime time, because that's what's paying the bills for those time slots.
     
  10. photoshopgrl

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

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    I have dual 24" monitors and I still only watch shows I have to download. Anything I can watch on my big TV I gladly will. My DVR sits constantly between 80-90% full. The only shows I watch live are the ones I want to count.

    Haha! :up:
     
  11. DouglasPHill

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    They killed Human Target in season two. I enjoyed season one.
     
  12. laria

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    I still enjoyed this season but I did not like the two new female characters. It's like they thought if they added two women to the cast, the ratings would go up.

    It's not in this list, but they changed the format of The Good Guys in the second season, which I also loved. Well, I'm not really sure it was a second season, since the first one was a summer show, but whatever. :) I think I read somewhere that the time jumping was too confusing or something, so they toned that down. That was one of the parts I liked the best! But then again, I also liked Boomtown on NBC a number of years back, and they did a lot of jumping around in the timeline there, too.
     
  13. scooterboy

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    Wow - Community must have changed a lot after I watched the first two episodes. I don't remember it being about pop culture at all. I remember the lead guy scamming his way through classes, and trying to get in the girl student's pants. I remember Chevy Chase being a strange old guy returning to college. I think I remember some stereotype bit players: a nerd, an Indian guy, and a black girl I think?

    Gave up after two episodes - just didn't amuse me. But I don't remember any pop culture. :confused:
     
  14. ClutchBrake

    ClutchBrake Pass the gravy!

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    What a freakin' phenomenal show. Ruined when it was dumbed down. :(
     
  15. jay_man2

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    I have my iPad in my lap in front of my 47 inch HDTV and have the same issues!
     
  16. ClutchBrake

    ClutchBrake Pass the gravy!

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    Community is VERY pop culture based now. A little too much for my liking sometimes, but I still enjoy it overall.
     
  17. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    It's not "about" pop culture or movies. It just derives a lot of its humor and plot from pop culture themes. But yes, the overall story is about a lawyer having to go back to school to get his undergrad degree and forming a study group with a bunch of other students. Like any other sitcom, the "hook" from the pilot rarely matters once the characters are established and fleshed out. Now, it's just a show about an unlikely group of friends at a community college.
     
  18. scooterboy

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    Ok - but still, I don't remember it doing that in the first two episodes.
     
  19. jschuur

    jschuur TV-holic, improving

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    Angry Birds: check. iPad: check.

    Some shows I can't have any distraction during, or I lose track of the plot completely. House and Lie to Me are two examples.
     
  20. Fofer

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    And in other breaking news, water is wet. :D
     

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