For All Mankind Apple TV + SPOILERS

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  1. Bierboy

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    Eh...not so much. Until the last 20 mins or so. It was very slow before that.
     
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  2. Rob Helmerichs

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    I was wondering why Cobb left her dosimeter behind. It's not like that would prevent her from getting radiation poisoning, or anybody else from finding out.

    Then when she got back to the cave, I realize she did it so that we would know she would have been OK if she hadn't gone back for her friend. How thoughtful of her! :D
     
  3. wprager

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    If she had survived to him right away she would have cut their exposure probably in half of more. So, unless in this timeline the Russians have a cure for cancer they're dead people walking.


    So John Lennon survived and The Pope was killed.

    I was too preoccupied by the horrible Pravda headline (whoever wrote it has no understanding of Russian grammar - I'll proof read for free!) to notice most of the other headlines. What did I miss?
     
  4. nataylor

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    I do question the usefulness of a dosimeter that is only capable of indicating “anywhere from no radiation to just shy of enough to kill you” and “already dead.”
     
  5. Rob Helmerichs

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    Yeah, as I said it served a plot purpose, not a practical purpose.

    They did say that the green reading meant you were OK, so maybe there is an intermediate setting that we didn't see?
     
  6. kaszeta

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    You’d hope a decent dosimeter with visual feedback had levels between “good” and “well and truly effed”
     
  7. trainman

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    PUT A (fake) BEATLES SONG FROM THEIR 1984 REUNION ALBUM ON THE SHOW'S SOUNDTRACK THIS SEASON, YOU COWARDS!
     
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  8. Regina

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    Queen Camilla!
     
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  9. ej42137

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    I did as well; but I have two questions:
    1. When did they get faster than light communication with the moon; there was no two second lag apparent during their conversations with Earth.
    2. How did Roman Polankski's arrest at the Canadian border cause a Carrington event?
     
  10. ej42137

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    My assumption was that she was hoping not to be grounded by her dosimeter.
     
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  11. Rob Helmerichs

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    But when she got sick and died, that would pretty much have the same effect. It just didn't make sense to me...until it became useful to us as viewers.
     
  12. ej42137

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    Even if she just gets really sick it has the same effect. But if she got enough so as to just give her cancer a few years later, an exposed dosimeter would ground her forever. It's like standing pat in Final Jeopardy when you are the low man, she's playing the odds.
     
  13. Rob Helmerichs

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    But that's not the way the dosimeters worked (as they explained them). Green is OK, red is dead. (Which makes no sense, but again, it was for our benefit, not theirs.)
     
  14. jsmeeker

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    Lots of fun alternate reality news headlines and stories in the opening!

    Reagan still President. But of course, he's the 39th President.
     
  15. wprager

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    My take: if you've watched RDM's earlier show they featured a radiation detector which definitely showed intermediate stages (just different colors). If she came back red they would have sent her back on the next "shuttle" and she probably would prefer to die on the moon.
     
  16. Rob Helmerichs

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    But I strongly suspect you're putting more thought into it than Moore did. If you watched his public behavior during his earlier show, you know he has nothing but contempt for science & logic, and for people who expect his shows to make use of them. I'm sure the dosimeter was put in as a plot device to let us know she would have been OK if she'd stayed in the cave, and they didn't bother putting in the (five minutes' worth of) work to sell it logically beyond that.
     
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  17. wprager

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    You're still bitter about the ending. I get it. But I still can't forget the incredible first 3 seasons. Also not sure if his contempt was for science or the viewers or the plan. He certainly treated his scotches with more respect than the others.
     
  18. Rob Helmerichs

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    ??? The ending? I started to become bitter during the first season, when it became clear that Moore has no respect for the S in SF.

    It very quickly became clear to me that he lives entirely for the moment, and that nothing else matters to him.* I think he is better served by a show like this, where it is so tightly tied to reality to begin with, and thus he doesn't feel he can get away with just making everything up moment to moment (i.e., he has a real world that he has to adhere to). BG just pissed me off more and more as the show "progressed," whereas FAM hasn't really pissed me off at all (I was more amused by the flagrant use of the dosimeter as a pure plot device without any regard for how they really work or how they would actually be used).

    His contempt for science was pretty clear from the way that he completely ignored it, e.g., putting in Spylons without giving the first thought to what they were or how they would physically function. His contempt for the viewers was expressed explicitly whenever they called him on his science miscues. The fact that "the plan" was a lie from the beginning was just icing on the cake of contempt....in this case, contempt for the basic rules of storytelling.

    *I have long thought that he and J. Michael Straczynski, who has basically the opposite problem, would make a perfect team. For all his flaws, Moore does do great moments.
     
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  19. PJO1966

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    Right. He was elected in 1976 instead of Carter.

    Prince Charles was allowed to marry Camilla instead of being forced to marry Diana, so no Will or Harry.

    I didn't catch the John Lennon bit.
     
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  20. jsmeeker

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    welll... there could still be a Will and Harry. just different mother. :)
     

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