For All Mankind Apple TV + SPOILERS

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  1. Dec 15, 2019 #61 of 100
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Plus Margo's career probably over. I doubt NASA can afford to keep her in place after she ordered the astronauts to let Molly die, and they were able to rescue her anyway.
     
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    Which is dumb, because Margo made the 100% right call.

    Molly should have vented her suit to remove the need for the other crew members to risk their lives to save her.
     
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  3. Dec 15, 2019 #63 of 100
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Although the writers wanted to have it both ways...it was kind of a cop-out to have her make the right call, and then be proven wrong (she didn't say they probably couldn't rescue Molly; she said they definitely couldn't). The way it looks now, she was just plain wrong. And given what a genius she's been portrayed as being in orbital mechanics etc., having her be "wrong" seems, well, wrong. She calculated the Cold Equations, and she should have been proven right.
     
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  4. Dec 15, 2019 #64 of 100
    ej42137

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    Nice.
     
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    nataylor

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    And right before she made the call, flight dynamics said that there were no trajectories that conserved enough fuel (due to uncertainty in Molly’s trajectory).
     
  6. Dec 15, 2019 #66 of 100
    jsmeeker

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    Whoa...

    I was waiting for the Americans and Russians to have some sort of encounter on the moon.. But I wasn't really expecting that. I guess next episode is the "Apollo 13" episode.
     
  7. Dec 15, 2019 #67 of 100
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    Either that or something like the ending of the Abyss special edition where the alien creature stopped the war between the Americans and the a Russians.
     
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    jsmeeker

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    lol... that would be bad.
     
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  9. Dec 20, 2019 #69 of 100
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    Episode 10 on 12/20/2019 I think this is the end of season 1?

    Yay! Well, Deke wasn't ok, but at least we got to see a bit more of him. He was rough on Ellen, but he was right. If she came out in that day and age, her career would have been over.

    I totally missed that, but you were right. I was glad to see Mikhail help Ed and then Ed give him back the part to the Soviet Rover. Looks like Ed's plan was to try to get info out of the Soviet and not to kill him. I'm glad Ed wasn't a murderer.

    I'm really glad this didn't happen. I liked the scene where Molly told Margo that Margo made the right call.

    There was a scene from 1983 after the credits. I'm not sure if it counts as a preview and should only be discussed in spoiler tags, but I'm assuming so and will err on the side of caution.
    So was that rocket with the plutonium probably launched from a submarine? I would guess that they are going to build a nuclear power plant on the moon but I don't really know much about nuclear stuff.
     
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    LlamaLarry

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    Woo that was a ride! I was bummed by Deke's responses, even if they make sense in the time period. I definitely got a lump in my throat when they told Marjorie, but I really liked the added touch of her buttoning up her jacket and straightening up when they were on the way.

    Speaking of which, why the heck is security so lax at JSC? Aleida shows up pretty much whenever she feels like and wanders everywhere including into Margo's office, Karen brings Pam, etc. After the FBI scrubbed everyone looking for Soviets, then ended up catching undocumented workers after scaring them for bringing home unclassified (?) trash, I would expect NASA security to be pretty tight, especially in viewing areas of Flight operations.

    Spoilering end credit stuff (thanks for telling me there was one)
    I am really looking forward to a jump to 1983, but hopefully they fill in Waverly's time at Jamestown and further contact with the Soviets, especially since Mikhail was looking at the settlement when Baldwin took off. Any news on S2? ;)
     
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    I don't know what security was like in the late 1960's but it does seem strange that they would have an illegal working there and that his daughter had access to the facility, too. I think once Margo took on the role of Alieda's mentor that access was expected, but yes, security still seems pretty lax.

    I don't know why it would seem so strange for Pam to be kept informed and want to be onsite for updates as Ellen's best friend. Sure they want to keep Ellen and Pam's romantic relationship a secret, but would be very easy to pass it off as a friend relationship. I guess they had to be careful and being paranoid was part of that.

    I really enjoyed this first season. I assume there is a second season, but I haven't seen any premiere dates for the second season of any of the Apple TV + shows.
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Although since she (Ellen) had already been investigated for suspicion of gayness, she (Pam) really was playing with fire.

    I assume they have plans for Alieda in Season 2 (maybe with an older actor?), since she didn't really add anything to the plot this season. (The show was renewed weeks before it even premiered.)
     
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    jsmeeker

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    RIP Deke.

    Go women.

    Loved it when Margo told the director (is that who he is) to go eff off. That was awesome. Really loved the reaction it got from the rest of the people in mission control. They really loved it too.
     
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    Total and complete speculation: I've been predicting that, in a future season, she would be the first human on Mars.

    On that post-credits scene:

    The launch was apparently being broadcast live on TV, so it didn't appear that it was a secret military mission. My guess: a plutonium-powered rocket on its way to Mars. (But I think this would make Alieda a little young to match my prediction.)

    The writers/producers may not have decided yet exactly what's going on with that launch, though. It might depend on whether they decide to have the 1976 election result in a Kennedy re-election or a Reagan win.
     
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    jsmeeker

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    didn't the announcer in that rocket launch coverage say something about a supply mission to Jamestown station??
     
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    With the episode making a point to show Reagan, I fully expect the moon to be militarized when we rejoin Jamestown in season 2.
     
  18. Dec 21, 2019 #78 of 100
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Why is everybody spoilerizing discussion of a scene that was in this episode? It's not a preview; it's a scene.
    The Russian gave the station an odd look as Edward was blasting off...obviously Edward and Ellen didn't notice anything when they got back, but I wonder...
     
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  19. Dec 21, 2019 #79 of 100
    SoupMan

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    Let’s call it an abundance of caution. One man’s final scene is another man’s preview. :)
     
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    jsmeeker

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    is it?
     

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