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  1. Win Joy Jr

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    Pathfinder: I was surprised by Sally Ride’s acceptance that the mission is now military in nature and her handling of the side arm. I am old enough to remember Enterprise undergoing atmospheric testing, and how there were concerns of contacting the SCA (Shuttle Carrier Aircraft) vertical stabilizer. The tail on Pathfinders aircraft was huge!

    On edit: no one caught me Mis-identifying the SCA?
     
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  2. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    Remember, though, they very specifically mentioned Pathfinder's military superiority to Buran. I can't imagine that won't play a big part next week...
     
  3. Win Joy Jr

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    If Jamestown has fallen, would Pathfinder still try to run the blockade? Because at the moment no one outside of Jamestown knows what is going on.

    I wouldn’t put it past the show runners to leave us in a bad place at the end of the season and then starting Season 3 Ten years later having the US rebuilding. Maybe the race to Mars after giving up on the Moon?
     
  4. cmontyburns

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    Holy cow.

    Might rewatch that one before commenting further. But those last few minutes...!
     
  5. kaszeta

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    Pathfinder: that airborne launch was nice. And the displays labeling it as OV-201 was a nice touch.

    Sea Dragon: nice to see another Sea Dragon launch.

    Kentucky-Fried Cosmonaut: that bugged me since last week. If the Soviets used pure oxygen (plausible) it wouldn’t be at high pressure. A spark in that suit would be like a spark in Earth air.

    Pulling the airlock door closed trope: sigh. Not going to happen. Not even close. Just have someone push a “close” button and have hydraulics do it, since you’d need that in reality.
     
  6. Regina

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    THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING! THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING! :eek:
    HOLY COW!
    Those last few minutes! I totally agree with what others have said-had me on the edge of my seat!
    ..and there was a conversation just before the attack about Jamestown being under nuclear power again-so will there be some sort of "nuclear option" to self-destruct? Just a thought...Good Lord!
    So Gordo and Tracy are - um - doing the deed behind several closed doors-do they even hear what is going on? Are the others going to come and hide and find them? OOO! I can't wait for next week!
    I did like how they explained why Ed didn't have his wedding ring on (that he had to surrender it before the launch). But that did facilitate his "two wrongs make a right" attempt. But he couldn't "complete the mission" :p
    So did Pam leave to give Ellen a chance at being a congresswoman? Dang, I had high hopes for those crazy kids.
    Has Molly really accepted her inevitable blindness? Glad she didn't waste money on a fake "cure" in Mexico. She and her husband are so sweet together. Polar opposites yet they make it work.
    Great episode. Keep 'em coming!
     
  7. wprager

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    Buran, not Braun. For a few seconds I was wondering that I somehow missed Colm Feore making a comeback cameo (he'd have to be ancient).

    Anyone else wonder how it is that the Russians had guns and ammo all of a sudden? Kinda makes the point that the Americans were right in bringing in the marines.

    I am not an astrophysicist, but isn't the moon bombarded by various space "dust" fairly regularly? Lots of large craters and I suspect without any atmosphere to bounce off there would be other small debris hitting it somewhat regularly. As a consequence of that why would any habitat have large windows -- did an interior decorator design it? With today's tech I would place outward facing cameras feeding window-sized screens, but the exterior wall would have to be able to withstand space junk hitting it. Then, again, I am not an astrophysicist.
     
  8. Rob Helmerichs

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    Bear in mind that those craters are the result of billions of years' worth of impacts. It's not like the Earth, where you have the movement of air, water, and plate tectonics to smooth them over. The odds of anything hitting a certain point on the Moon at any given time are, well, astronomical. And I suspect the psychological damage of spending months confined to a building without windows would be immense.
     
  9. cmontyburns

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    I like this topic-specific post approach. I tend to write longer posts covering an entire episode, but then have to find the time to get it all down. Easier to chop it up like this, especially in an episode with so much worth talking about. :thumbsup:

    So with that in mind...

    Ellen & Pam -- Pam's method of leaving Ellen was both heroic and brutal. In lying about going back to Elise, she both takes the burden from Ellen about choosing between Pam and breaking her promise to Pam, and also makes sure it stays taken (no reason for Ellen to go chase Pam if she thinks Pam has picked someone else). But of course this leaves Ellen thinking that she must have done something, or otherwise didn't measure up. In some ways that might be harder than knowing the truth. (It's also a little hard to think charitably of Larry here. He surely knows what's up and doesn't tell Ellen. To be sure, telling her would be undoing Pam's choice and it's not really his place to do so, and it also might not change anything; but at the same time, it's good for him that Pam left, and telling Ellen the truth would make his life tougher again.)
     
  10. Bierboy

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    I've never heard it called THAT before...
    ;)
     
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    Where the heck are their Marines? They go all half cocked and shoot two Russians, killing one.

    Did they think there was no chance of the Russians retaliating?
     
  12. cmontyburns

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    Karen & Ed: Karen started the series as the character in the most sympathetic situation (technically I guess that was Tracy, but by episode three she was on her way), but somehow also as the least likable person. They did a good job bringing her along through the end of the season and most of season two. By the time we got to the affair (leaving aside the Danny problem) we could at least understand what was driving her to do it. But telling Ed about it on his way out the door to a very dangerous mission was an enormous regression for her. Ed is a serial narcissist and not blameless for what she feels is a problem in their marriage, but telling him just then was a real heel turn. Not only did she tell him, she clearly wanted him to know, and not just to know, but to know she did it with malice aforethought and she's not sorry. Jiminy.

    When Ed was demanding to know who it was, I half-hoped she'd tell him just to justify the show's questionable choice of it being Danny. Hard to see how that will come up in the last episode of the season, cementing it as an unnecessary choice unless they come back to it "ten years later".
     
  13. Steveknj

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    That's how you do an episode!! Can't wait for the S2 Finale!
     
  14. vertigo235

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    Oh man, only one more episode? bummer!
     
  15. Beryl

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    I’ve only read the last 2 posts in this thread. Time to binge-watch S2.
     
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  16. nataylor

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    I totally disagree. It seems like she's standing up for herself. Ed was oblivious to the torture she went through as he was out risking his life (putting himself on a mission after she thought he was going to stay in a desk job, and especially the completely unnecessary T-38 dogfight). The fact that Pathfinder's mission had been pushed up just put her over the edge, and she wanted Ed to know that her life wasn't going to revolve around him anymore. Waiting to tell him would just mean that, once again, Ed's desires come before hers. She was sick of it.
     
  17. Rob Helmerichs

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    I get that, but there's more at stake then just her (and Ed's) feelings. She's jeopardizing a critical mission in the middle of a potentially nuclear confrontation. And she strikes me as having been written as the kind of person who would get that.
     
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  18. cmontyburns

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    Yes, this is where I am. It's crystal-clear what led her to the affair and why, and that Ed, though he loves her, his enough of a narcissist not to see how he helped cause it. Her feelings are valid, and he should know about them, and her suggesting counseling is a reasonable thing to have done. But her telling him about the affair in this moment, and in this way, played not like a "it's time we be open about things" conversation, but a "you're leaving and so I'm getting even with you" bit of pettiness. She knows how dangerous telling him then could be. Just look at the title of the next episode. :)
     
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  19. nataylor

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    She doesn't know what Pathfinder is doing. There's no indication she knows what's going on on the Moon. It's a test flight, as far as she knows. But even if she did know everything, I still wouldn't hold it against her. Ed's male fragility is not more important than her.
     
  20. Rob Helmerichs

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    Well, the whole world knows that Russia and the US are on the verge of a war, and that space is central to that. And after the discussion (argument) they had (along with their daughter) and the specific way Ed avoided talking about his mission, I don't think they have much doubt that it has something to do with all that.

    And even if she didn't have a clue (which I don't believe for a second), Ed's male fragility being shattered will at the very least put at risk everybody else on the mission. She knows better, but the plot demands that she act as if she doesn't (apparently, they want Ed to have some kind of break-down or &@^#-up). She should be planning what she will do the minute Ed gets back (or, if she's really vengeful, she will already have done it and he'll only find out when he returns).
     

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