Fire TV 4K Stick or Roku 4K Stick?

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Fire TV 4K Stick or Roku 4K Stick?

  1. Fire TV 4K Stick

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  2. Roku 4K Stick

    17 vote(s)
    42.5%
  1. fyodor

    fyodor Active Member

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    I generally agree, but I'd make a few points.

    1. the 4K fire stick is much faster than the older ones, so you might want a 4K stick just to enjoy the higher performance even if you don't own a 4K TV

    2. The lifecycle of a five hundred dollar TV is longer than that of a streaming device. It may be that the 4K FTV stick provides a better app experience than a 4K TV that's a few years old.

    3. The app selection on many 4K TVs varies. People who want support for say Disney+ or some of the network TV apps or less popular apps may not get them on their 4K TVs.

    4. With the FTV particularly, many people like the open-ended android platform that lets them sideload apps and customize and whatnot.

    I have a lower-end Vizio 4K TV in my bedroom. The netflix and amazon experiences are good-certainly better than my Tivo mini, but there are many things it doesn't support. It's fine for my bedroom. But if I had the same TV in my living room, I'd spend 30 bucks and add a 4K firestick to it.
     
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  2. waynomo

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    I purchased a Samsung 4K HDR TV in 2016. There are limited apps. The interface is a bit clunky. It's a mediocre experience at best. The one positive is they had the Masters tournament app in 4K. That was a treat.
     
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  3. dmk1974

    dmk1974 DA BEARS!!!

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    Yeah, even my 2018 Toshiba 4K TV that has Fire TV built in still doesn't have the Apple TV+ app on it. What the heck? The one with integrated Roku 4K has it. It seems that all of the current model sticks seem to be faster and get all of the latest content. Integrated is convenient for a while, but then quickly outdated it seems in performance and apps.
     
  4. slowbiscuit

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    I have a Chromecast and Rokus and almost never use the 'cast because using a phone as a remote sucks compared to, uh, an actual remote. Pretty much only use the 'cast to stream stuff from my laptop to a big screen. If it's Youtube, Netflix etc. forget it, just use the Roku or TV apps.
     
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  5. Aaron Malloy

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    While I was taking a nap today, my dog decided to play fetch with a Stick. Or should I say, the remote that goes with the Stick. o_O

    Looking on Amazon, a replacement cost more that what I paid for the whole thing. Luckily, it still works. I'll wait until they go back on sale and just buy the whole thing again. Then sale the Stick part on Ebay.

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. SugarBowl

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    App differences that I have noticed

    Roku - has a Spectrum Cable TV app and VUDU
    FireTv - can show Nest and Ring doorbell live video, has a SlingBox playing app, has the HDHomeRun app(but can't play protected channels)
     
  7. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    FWIW, you can side-load Vudu onto Fire TV.
     
  8. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Well-Known Member

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    I just noticed a day or two ago that Roku also has the Xfinity (beta) app. I played with it a bit, seemed to work.
     
  9. 2004raptor

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    I'm getting xfinity service thursday. My neighbor has mentioned he went from firestick to roku for the xfinity streaming but he never tells me exactly why. I'm guessing they both work? And is the purpose of the roku/firestick for you to get live tv as well as stuff recorded on their dvr?
    I currently have an older model firestick and I just ordered a roku 4k stick form amazon.

    I also have a new samsung qled and I downloaded the xfinity streram app for it and noticed it also said it was beta.

    So, over the weekend I will hopefully have time to see the difference in all 3.
     
  10. dmk1974

    dmk1974 DA BEARS!!!

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    I've been really happy with the 4K Roku stick. Using with Xfinity Stream beta, it's been very good. I'd say a 30-31 second lag compared to my live broadcasts from the TiVo.
     
  11. mdavej

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    Xfinity app doesn't work too well on Fire stick because it doesn't exist. That's probably whey he got a Roku.
    The purpose would be to save money. You don't have to pay to rent a box (or buy a Tivo) to watch on a Roku. I don't recall any DVR access last time I tried the app, only live TV. But that was about a year ago, so things may have changed by now.
    You'll notice a really big difference between the Xfinity Roku app and the Fire stick.
     
  12. 2004raptor

    2004raptor time to emancipate

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    OK , then the comcast rep misinformed me. She asked if I had a smart tv and I mentioned I had a firestick and a samsung smart tv (I hadn't ordered the roku at that time) and she said it would work with the firestick. :rolleyes:
     
  13. SugarBowl

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    With the Spectrum App on Roku, you get access to all of the on-demand stuff that spectrum has. Which you can't get with the cablecard tivo.
     
  14. mdavej

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    I do, however, see a couple of Youtube videos of people running the side-loaded Android version of the app. But it appears to be really difficult to use as it's designed for mouse navigation. If you like to tinker, give it a shot and let us know.
     
  15. Mikeguy

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    I guess the pup felt that since you play with it all the time, the pup should, as well. ;)
     
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  16. Aaron Malloy

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    That makes sense.
     
  17. 2004raptor

    2004raptor time to emancipate

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    The firestick is on my daughters TV now. So I wouldn't want anything too difficult to navigate.
    The more I think about it maybe I should pull out my roamio and 3 minis and go back to Tivo. Guess ill see how the install goes and decide. Does Comcast still give out cablecards?
     
  18. jcliff

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    An alternative option, I actually like https://moviesanywhere.com/

    For studios that participate, any movie you buy on Vudu/Amazon/Google Play is available in your libraries on those services. Has come in handy when I was using a device that didn't have a specific app.

    Which movie titles are not eligible for Movies Anywhere?

    Right now the biggies would be Paramount, Lionsgate, and MGM titles.

    I have a Fire stick, a Roku, and a Shield (Android TV), mostly out of curiosity.

    Android TV and Roku are way more neutral. So far Roku has the largest selection of apps from big players. Inversely, Android TV has some fairly big gaps (and sideloading is hit and miss), although I really like how Android TV integrates your content from different apps (and even live TV if you have something like an HDHomerun connected) on the homescreen.

    I really don't use the Fire stick that much, because at the moment most of the content I watch is Amazon specific, and it's so incredibly weighted to put Amazon content front and center.

    Fire TV and Android TV definitely have slicker interfaces.

    It's kind of like deciding whether YouTube TV or Hulu Live will work for you. You make a list of the channels/apps/shows that are most important to you, and then see which devices match that list.

    The Roku and Fire TV are both pretty friendly in terms of usability, and I'd put them both in the "you can give one to your kid/parents" category. I gave my own parents a Roku, and they've never had to call me for tech support about it.

    The Shield is a fantastic device, but it's also expensive and exposes wayyyy more of the OS than the other two. So you can tweak it extensively, or if you don't know what you're doing, break a lot of stuff.

    My biggest gripe with my Rokus are that the sticks don't have a headphone remote. You can use the Roku app with your phone but I find performance is pretty bad, especially in hotel room type situations, bordering on unusable. Whereas both the Fire stick and the Shield can directly connect to bluetooth headphones for when you wanna watch TV when everyone else is sleeping.

    You can't even buy a headphone remote separately, they're just not compatible with the stick models at all.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2019
  19. mdavej

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    Fire TV stick (non-4k) half price today ($20). Use promo code FIRETVSTICK at amazon checkout.
     
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  20. aaronwt

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    I just voted for the Roku. But there was not an option for both. I use my FireTV 4K stick for some things and my Roku 4K stick for others. And then I use my SHield TVs for other things and my ATV 4K boxes for things too.

    But between the FireTV 4K stick and the ROku 4K stick I would easily pick the Roku. Since it has more of the streaming apps I use than the Fire TV 4K stick has.
     

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