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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dmk1974, Oct 26, 2019.
Disney just popped up on my Samsung today!
I got the Fire Stick 4K today (even though I only have a 10-year old 42" Panasonic plasma) for $25. Up until today, I've only used streaming apps through my Roamio OTA Tivo. But good grief, the Fire Stick is SO snappy compared to Tivo. And finally, thumbnails on Amazon Prime Video when fast-fordwarding. That process was horrible with Tivo. The Alexa voice search built-into the remote works really well in every app. Needless to say, I'm smitten.
I started the Disney+ trial and the app works fine. I've watched The Incredibles and Wall-E tonight. I'm not the biggest fan of Star Wars or Marvel, so keeping the Disney+ subscription is probably not that important to me. I'll try to cram in as many Pixar movies in a week as I can.
I've cancelled my Tivo subscription. They didn't even bother trying to keep me.
TiVo plus Fire TV is your best combo!
Well I cancelled TiVo, which will run out in a couple of weeks. I love the DVR, but 15 bucks a month isn't really worth it.
Both of these devices are so cheap just get one of each. I use both. My Firestick seems a bit clunky at times especially when switching between apps. But since I use a lot of Prime video I tend to use that one more.
Well, side by side, I keep going back and forth. Both the 4K Fire Stick and 4K Roku stick are great. The voice remotes are both great and easy to use with the IR TV power/volume controls and both seems responsive.
Roku: I like the menu interface better. Has the Vudu app and Xfinity Stream app (though, most TVs have a TiVo Mini on them). iPhone app control is easier and can listen via Bluetooth headphones through my iPhone. Can also cast photos and videos from my iPhone via the Roku app.
Fire: Maybe a touch faster navigating through menus. Buffers Prime Video to HD/4K faster than Roku. Some Plex videos in 4K stutter (Roku did not). Stick runs a little cooler temperature-wise. I can also have Alexa show me my Ring camera and doorbell video on the TV.
I own both but like FireTV 4K stick better. If you have prime then the FireTV interface is nice since they promote that content the most. I also prefer the FireTV remote better. I know the OP has a TiVo but the FireTV Recast DVR isn't bad at all and it integrates right into the interface and automatically shows up on every TV in the house that has FireTV. My hobby is helping people cut the cord and FireTV with the Recast DVR has become my go to system for new installs. It's cheaper, simpler, and stable. I used to suggest TiVo but the high cost of a TiVo whole house system and lack of any cable alternative streaming apps has changed my recommendation.
I just find the Roku interface rather boring and unimaginative. It's a solid device and I like that's it's agnostic towards apps.
Also the FireTV is often on sale much cheaper than Roku. Currently you can get the non 4K model for $19.99 and the 4K for just $5 more. I just set up a family with 7 TVs in the house for under $400 including a 4 tuner Recast DVR. They use OTA and Sling for a nice TV package all accessible thru one interface with one remote. It's a pretty sweet system for such a low price and super easy to set up and use!
For those interested in going with a Roku, Walmart has the Roku Ultra on sale for the holiday. That's Roku's top of the line, $100 model. On sale for $48. Order now on line or pick up in store after 6:00 p.m. this evening.
The Ultra is on Amazon for the same price, with no shipping cost with Prime.
Or no shipping cost without Prime. (But, yep, a slower delivery--although my last non-Prime, free-shipping order from Amazon.com, 3 weeks ago, arrived 2-1/2 days after I placed my order--wow.)
Joe, as a typically non-streamer here (and with no paid services, not even Netflix currently), would I benefit from a Roku, if even to toy and explore with? See: https://www.tivocommunity.com/commu...onday-2019-deals.574092/page-18#post-11914996.
Yes, if even just to play with. I use mine 90% with Pandora. I use my Roamio when I stream Prime, YouTube and if I miss the occasional program and it can be streamed. Most streaming services are 2ch PCM stereo which I don't like. Almost my cable feeds are DD5.1. My ISP has a web site where I can see my use down to the hour level. But my cap is 1.5TB and I seldom go past 30GB.
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I really like in the Fire Stick 4K. It's the first time I've had a streaming device other than what's included with the TiVo. Everything is just a big improvement over the TiVo. Faster to load, crisper graphics, better navigation. I've been using it so much that when I went back to the TiVo to watch some recorded shows, the remote all of the sudden seemed so bulky by comparison.
I canceled my TiVo. If they come back with a deal of $7 a month, I'll go back with them. But really, any good content over-the-air usually ends up on YouTube at some point anyway. So no biggie.
Maybe I'm missing something, because I don't get the point of using a 4K Fire stick or Roku. If you're using a 4K TV, they're all smart TV's with the same apps.
Here is what you are missing. I do not have a 4K smart TV. But since the Fire Stick 4K was only 25 bucks, it was a cheap route to get the most up-to-date product that is future-proof as well for when I do get a new TV.
Well, I did say "If you're using a 4K TV".
Great point. My TVs are 4K Fire TV edition TVs, so no need for a stick or Roku at all. Works identical to the Fire stick.
I have a 4K Sony Android TV and the interface and apps are sluggish. The 4K Fire Stick is much better overall. And even if you don't have a 4K TV, the 4K Fire Stick performs much better in terms of speed than the regular Fire Stick. We'll worth the extra 5 bucks.
The TV apps work for the first year, then the TV makers come out with a new model and never update the TV apps on the old models, and eventually something changes in the infrastructure that makes them hopeless. The streaming devices are much more likely to get updates, and cheaper to replace if they do go obsolete. Plus, they don't all have all the same apps. I just bought a Roku to get the "Shudder" streaming service so I could finally watch "Tigers are not Afraid" on a screen larger than my phone .
I don't know about "most" streaming services being 2ch PCM stereo, but sound was my big disappointment with Roku. I started watching Westworld on HBOGO and I new the sound wasn't great and I thought that's just how it was. After a few episodes I realized that there was no Dolby Digital. My receiver was doing Pro Logic surround. I started watching via TiVo and there was a significant improvement.
I hate the interface on the Amazon Fire Stick. I admittedly haven't used it all that much, but it heavily promotes everything Amazon and it was difficult to navigate and find the content I wanted to watch.
My preference right now is Chromecast. (It depends what I'm watching)
However, all of them have their own pros and cons.