FiOS restriction --- Transferring prohibited by the copyright holder.

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  1. Jun 11, 2010 #41 of 813
    MPSAN

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    I am not sure the 2 were the same. I think that the CableCard can be enabled even without pairing. However, without pairing, we can only transfer shows with a 000 flag.
     
  2. Jun 11, 2010 #42 of 813
    MPSAN

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    rifleman you have a PM
     
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    rifleman69

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    Just respond to the other thread only...this one will fall off the page once no one posts on it or reads this message. :)
     
  5. Jun 11, 2010 #45 of 813
    NYHeel

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    Is the pairing for all Fios customers or only those in the frontier areas?
     
  6. Jun 11, 2010 #46 of 813
    cwerdna

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    Should we really consolidate? My original purpose of the other thread was for non-FiOS people to tell me if those channels were protected. I wanted to see if it was VZ/Frontier's doing vs. the content provider.

    After all, if let's say CNN, CNBC, HDNet, Discovery, etc. are all protected for everyone else, then me going to Comcast would be pointless.
     
  7. Jun 11, 2010 #47 of 813
    richsadams

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    Not sure...I don't have the list of all states VZ serves, but the outage and new copy flags appear to be limited to the future Frontier FIOS states.
     
  8. Jun 11, 2010 #48 of 813
    richsadams

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    Good point. I think most of the folks here have the same channels flagged, but there are VZ subscribers in states other than those that Frontier is taking over that still have no CP. We can't assume anything but I'd think it would be a safe bet that this is limited to the future Frontier FIOS areas.

    We should probably do some research on the Comcast threads and outside forums to see what the buzz is...if any...to find out if they are experiencing new CP issues as an earlier poster mentioned.
     
  9. Jun 11, 2010 #49 of 813
    richsadams

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    I'll do that. Oh wait...d'oh! ;)
     
  10. Jun 11, 2010 #50 of 813
    vurbano

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    I have no problems. My cards must be paired
     
  11. Jun 11, 2010 #51 of 813
    cwerdna

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    What area are you in?

    Define "no problems". Have you tried recording/checking for the presence of CP on problems channels that I've listed (100 CNN, 102 CNBC, HDNet, DSCP, etc.)?
     
  12. Jun 11, 2010 #52 of 813
    MPSAN

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    Verizon said it was a TIVO issue. I said it was not and that the TIVO was just responding to the Flag that Verizon was sending. They then said that there was no problem and that Verizon was just sending what they were told to send.
     
  13. Jun 11, 2010 #53 of 813
    rifleman69

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    I think our PM conversation is correct MPSAN. VZ can't say anything about it...and we weren't supposed to know about it until the 1st!
     
  14. Jun 11, 2010 #54 of 813
    MapleLeaf

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    Ugh! I just upgraded my FiOS service two days ago and signed on for a two-year commitment (I'm in WA state, so I'll be affected by the upcoming transition to Frontier). I had previously been getting 20/5 internet, Extreme HD TV, and Freedom Essentials phone, and paying $105/month for the bundle. They offered me 35/35 internet, Ultimate HD TV, and the same phone package for $80/month for the first 6 months and then $110/month for the remaining 18 months of my commitment. Oh, and they also threw in a bunch of movie channels (HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, TMC, and Epix) for free for 6 months. I figured that not only was this a really good deal, but it would protect me from any Frontier price increases for at least a couple of years.

    But given these latest developments, I'm having second thoughts. I *think* I have 30 days to get out of my commitment without incurring an early termination fee, so I'll have to see how things shake out over the next few weeks. If it turns out that copy protection is in fact here to stay, then I'll have to weigh how impactful these increased copy restrictions are to me versus the cost and other benefits of my bundled services before deciding whether or not I should stick with Verizon/Frontier and exploring what my other options might be.
     
  15. Jun 11, 2010 #55 of 813
    MPSAN

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    Yeah...I guess they figured that no one would know!
     
  16. Jun 11, 2010 #56 of 813
    vurbano

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    Newport News, VA... I just tried HBOHD and USAHD. 3 minutes of JAG from HDNET are transferring to this PC as I type.
     
  17. Jun 11, 2010 #57 of 813
    richsadams

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    Hang in there. Even if the CP stays in place I can't believe it will stay copy zero, that doesn't make any sense for anyone. Whatever happens I'm almost certain we'll have 30 to 90 days to leave Frontier FIOS w/o an ET fee.
     
  18. Jun 11, 2010 #58 of 813
    cwerdna

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    Do you know if your area is transitioning to Frontier? Did you get hit by the outage across most channels >100 on 6/7 and 6/8?

    Please do give some of the channels/shows I mentioned at http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=450334 a whirl.

    That's good for you w/HDNET. Every single ep of Enterprise I recorded from HDNET >=6/8 has been protected (unless something suddenly changed this afternoon). None before it ever were protected.
     
  19. Jun 11, 2010 #59 of 813
    vurbano

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    Not sure
    No no outages here.
     
  20. Jun 11, 2010 #60 of 813
    rifleman69

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    Outages only in Indiana, Oregon, and Washington. Everyone else didn't get it, and looks like they don't have any copy protection either.
     

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