FIOS IPTV and Tivo compatibility

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  1. Bigg

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    Only the very top tier is MPEG-4. It will probably creep down over time, although there aren't really any more channels to net add at this point, as they seem to be disappearing faster than they are appearing.
     
  2. BobCamp1

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    Well, I have an SD box that obviously can't do that. FIOS doesn't give those out anymore, but they don't charge to rent them either so I'm guessing quite a few customers still have them.
     
  3. Diana Collins

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    And ironically, SD on FiOS looks great, even up-converted to HD. Most people wouldn't notice the difference between it and HD down-converted to SD.
     
  4. TonyD79

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    Uh, no.

    Every HD channel they have added in the last year plus is MPEG4. They have added ZERO MPEG2 HD channels in that time period.

    Here is the list of MPEG4. Hardly "very top tier"

     
  5. TonyD79

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    I wouldn't go that far.
     
  6. Bigg

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    Alright, they have put a few MPEG-4 channels up that a lot of people would want, like Olympic Channel, FS2, Bloomberg. Most of them are specific sports packages or obscure stuff though. I'm guessing these are not in the Expanded Basic tier or even one tier up though? Maybe they are very, very slowly moving towards everything being in MPEG-4. They're cramming 8 per QAM, although if thye are doing a stat mux they may look much better than the comparison to Comcast's awful 9-10 per QAM would suggest just by raw average bandwidth, since the encoder has a lot of channels at stat mux against. QAM 4 has a lot of low-bandwidth channels, QAM 84 is probably the toughest to encode.
     
  7. TonyD79

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    Sigh. They haven’t added a single MPEG2 HD channel since they started adding MPEG4. It’s not a matter of tier level but a matter of what they are adding. And many of them are not on higher tiers.

    When they started doing it, they started a trade in process for their oldest HD boxes. They haven’t moved anything from MPEG2 to 4 yet but they are not adding MPEG2.

    Your premise is wrong. Move on.
     
  8. Bigg

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    Most of those aren't channels anyone has heard of, with a couple of exceptions. Olympic Channel is by far the highest profile one there. Clearly they are taking the slow lane with the migration to MPEG-4.
     
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    Olympic channel isn't technically a new channel. It used to be Universal HD. Universal HD was one of the few channels transitioned to mpeg4. Olympic channel continues as mpeg4.
     
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    MPEG4 uses less bandwidth than MPEG2...Verizon wants to eliminate all MPEG2 channels. DirecTV did the same thing several years ago and it made the DirecTV Tivos obsolete in favor of DirecTVs own DVR system. Tivo is in trouble as a company. They are turning into RedBox!
     
  12. krkaufman

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    Maybe read the whole thread before posting to a topic long dead. Or at least the last post.

    Also, TiVos handle MPEG4 just fine
     
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  13. TonyD79

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    And fios just (re)added an MPEG2 channel when they brought back the weather channel.
     
  14. Bigg

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    That's a bad example, because it's an oddball due to it's localized equipment for each local area (typically an MSO system).
     

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