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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by jdmatl, Jul 24, 2007.
very true and thus also my post disagreeing with your viewpoint
man, first HDTiVo and now this. Next JustinThyme will run as a libertarian in the elections and GoHokies will come out in favor of echoStar
I do stand by Businesses strategies in themselves are not evil.
I also stand by my thoughts that companies trying to circumvent laws that are good for consumers are "bad" from my perspective as a consumer.
I think my breaking point was when A TWC representative was standing in MY living room and lying directly to me about cable cards.
anyway I do see some of your points on the fact cable companies are just competing, Bicker. just to keep the argument out of this thread topic
And what exactly to folks mean by "unsupported?" All 3 three of my "unsupported" Series-1 units do everything they did the day I bought them. They record, they down load guide data. They pause, they playback.
For those greedy folks who couldn't wait to buy the upgrade, and now regret it, I say double fooey! I watched and waited to move my lifetime sub until the last day. By that evening, it was obvious something was afoot. Tivo had updated their website and only the 300hr Series-3 were on it. Rumors were running around and Egadget had leaked. So I knew what was up.
I want ahead and transfered one of my two lifetime units anyway, holding the other. I figure in another few months they will make another deal to get me off my other series-1 unit and I'll bite at the new unit then.
As ZeoTivo says, their revenue model now includes downloaded content, so they are itching to get me to get into that revenue stream and will make another upgrade offer the lifetime series-1 holdouts.
The one thing that can't do is truely cut them off. As long as my series-1 dials in every day and updates, they know it's alive and still has a "life" they have to support.
Patience pays off...
The term customer relationship was invented for a reason.
Yup: Back when customers actually upheld their side of such relationships.
Guess I must be missing the point. The only thing I have agreed to do is pay TiVo money - which I have and continue to do. What else is it that you think TiVo customers should be doing that they aren't?
It depends on how you want suppliers to behave in response.
Depends on how you want customers to behave.
i still really like my 2 540's and my 649. i'll likely replace the 2 540's with a dts3 in the next 6 months or so. if tivo makes the op so unhappy, perhaps he should be using some other company's products(s).
i just called and returned my tivo serises 2 dt
No longer Supported meaning:
1. Older Technology. Yes at some point we are all going to have to realise those "Old" Series 1 and Series 2's are beyond their useful lives.
Unsupported in terms of No more Software Updates. Unsupported as in "its time to move on people!"
So, my notion is not incorrect at all. Or perhaps in 5 odd Years you will still be trying to say I am incorrect
Also, We all know Income Statements, Profit and Loss Sheets, can be made to look like anything you want them to say: Its called Creative Accounting
Revenue in this texts means: Actual Dollars coming into the Business from a Customer. Lifetime Subscriptions from the Old Series 1's and the earlier Series 2's DO NOT bring any revenue at all into Tivo's pockets. That is why they have the $199.00 Transfer Fee for Lifetime. A Way to make another $199 from someone who supposively has "Lifetime" Subscriptions.
Good for you
I wish I'd have known this T3 lite was coming out so soon, and so cheap. I bought a S3 mid-June for $600 (amazon) plus $199 lifetime transfer. Now they've got the S3 lite which seems to have only 1 significant difference, slightly less record time, for only $299. I am fully fully aware that when it comes to consumer electronics prices drop, new becomes old, but you know what, not after only 6 weeks. Thing is I see that the S3 is still going for $600 who the heck would pay twice as much for a little more hard drive, especially considering how cheap hard drives are.
Could've been worse - you could've bought it 7/22.
If you didn't think the S3 was a good value in June, you shouldn't have bought it.
If I had known what/when the THD was going to be, I wouldn't have bought 1 S3, not 2. Oh well - maybe I'll sell one now that I have a THD too.
Life's too short to worry about missed deals on CE products.
i was originally waiting for an offer from tivo to transfer my lifetime from the 540 that has it now to a new 652. but i changed my mind and picked up a 652 today at circuit city at $40 off the $299.99 retail price. when tivo does offer a new lifetime transfer i'll likely pick up another 652 at that time.
today's 652 replaces both 540's (i'm retiring one and moving the other to my son's room for his exclusive use) and pairs up with my 649 at the family entertainment center (i've had the 649 for a year, one 540 for 18 months, and the other for 2 years). then when the time comes the second 652 will replace the 649 at the family entertainment center.
because you can currently only transfer lifetime on the S3