My reference to unmodified was not in reference to your post, it was in reference to Tutman's unmodified DSR6000. Your post shed no light as to the state of your unit, so how would I know?. Just because a post shows up directly after yours does not mean its contents is in answer to yours. I was concerned that TiVo may blow off the problem because my T60's were expanded, and the fact that it is happening on unmodified units was good news. And this had been happening for a long time before I got feed up with it and started this thread. I did do a search before I started this thread to see if anyone had mentioned it earlier but I failed to see your earlier threads otherwise I would have just added to them. Maybe if your Subject had been more definitive, like this thread, the search engine would have found them. I just thought I'd add some levity to the post by using that phrase but I see it fell on deaf eyes. And don't even get into post count, I obviously contributed more , especially in the DTiVo cooling arena.