Ex-Dish Marketing Chief Hops Over To TiVo

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  1. bayern_fan

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    "Ira Bahr, the former Dish Network exec who oversaw the product planning and marketing for the satellite TV giant’s “Hopper” whole-home HD-DVR, has been hired as the chief marketing officer of DVR pioneer TiVo..."

    http://www.multichannel.com/technology/ex-dish-marketing-chief-hops-over-tivo/148766
     
  2. celtic pride

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    I think this could be good for tivo! Hopefully we'll start seeing commercials on tv for the tivo roamio, Just like we saw and continue to see commercials about DISH HOPPER !TIVO really needs to get more people interested in tivo. But they really need to make it more affordable.
     
  3. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

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    In bigger news, Tivo has a marketing department? :):D
     
  4. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

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    It does now! :cool:
     
  5. Bigg

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    I find it strange that the people in the Hopper commercials "HOPPA!!!" are clearly from New York, and yet DISH doesn't compete in the NYC DMA and all of CT because they don't carry YES and SNY.

    Maybe they figure it's offensive enough that they will offend the people who talk like the ones in the ad, but it doesn't matter because they are from NY and can't get a complete lineup with DISH anyways.
     
  6. mattack

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    Darn, I wish he were more than just marketing! The Hopper's features (mostly auto-skipping commercials, since I realize PTA is largely dependent upon all of the networks being on one transponder on satellite) are one of the few things that seems GREATLY better than Tivo.
     
  7. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I thought I heard somewhere that Dish was back-peddling on the auto commercial skip due to backlash from advertisers.
    That could just be in my head, also.

    Even if that isn't the case, I don't think TiVo will ever have an auto skip feature for fear of backlash from advertisers.
     
  8. cherry ghost

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    Maybe you're talking about a different commercial, but in the one I've seen it's Boston accents.
     
  9. tatergator1

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    The Auto-Hop has resulted in numerous lawsuits against DISH from the various networks. In a recent deal with ABC, DISH is allowed to offer ESPN and ABC networks feeds over the internet directly. As part of the deal, DISH agreed to disable auto-hop for ABC networks.

    Replay TV tried it years ago and was sued into oblivion. DISH is trying it now and also dealing with lawsuits. I wonder if DISH's intent this whole time was to use auto-hop as bargaining chip for broader network negotiations. It was obviously a valuable concession to convince ABC to let DISH offer access to ESPN and ABC over IP.

    Tivo is not going to offer an auto-hop feature until the DISH lawsuits play out. Even then, Tivo is ultimately trying to cozy up to the MSO's, so honestly, an automatic commercial skipping feature on a Tivo is a pipe dream.
     
  10. NorthAlabama

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    hope this guy wasn't involved with dish's brilliant $320 million move to buy blockbuster...
     
  11. Bigg

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    I've seen the one with the two people on the couch. That's definitely New York, not Boston. Probably Lawn Guyland.
     
  12. mattack

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    *FOR THREE DAYS*
     
  13. RusRus

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    I may be wrong but don't we have skip forward with Tivo??? Sure, we have to do it 30 seconds at a time but isn't the result the same????
     
  14. steve614

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    The difference is the skip forward in a Tivo is manual, while the Dish Hopper requires no human intervention.
    It's the automatic nature of the feature that is causing the uproar.
     
  15. tarheelblue32

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    I assume Dish has this feature turned on by default, which is probably what the lawsuit is about. But if TiVo were to implement this as an extra opt-in feature that can only be turned on by the end user, I really don't see any legal problem to it.
     
  16. Bierboy

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    Heck, I had a VCR (Video Cassette Recorder for you young whippersnappers) that automatically skipped commercials...didn't always work perfectly, but it was nice when it did.
     
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  18. Bigg

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    TiVo does need to market more. But I don't agree with his assessment of seeing TiVo just as a DVR. TiVo is a DVR. A WAY better DVR. Everything else it does is done better by another device and highly commoditized. But as a DVR, TiVo is WAY better than anything else out there.
     
  19. jlin

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    I have both Roamino and Dish Hopper.. Hopper is WAY better than Roamino with its auto-hop feature and quick-add-on for ANY external hard drive.
     
  20. jlin

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    I have both Roamino and Dish Hopper.. Hopper is WAY better than Roamino with its auto-hop feature and quick-add-on for ANY external hard drive.
     

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