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  1. Jan 3, 2007 #1 of 23
    JoN8282

    JoN8282 New Member

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    sure it's my fault for still being up at 430am last night... but this is rather interesting. cablevision (oakland, nj) ran a test of the emergency broadcast system at 4:28am. It caused my series 3 to immediately go to "live tv" (from watching a recorded show) it scrolled the broadcast alert in the top portion of the screen, in very clear (obviously programmed by tivo) text. It did not allow for changing of the channel, hitting the tivo menu also disabled, as well as all time shift controls - all disabled. i'm assuming this has to do with cablelabs cert. - i dont really have a problem with it, but i figured i would post my experience here in case anyone has futher questions or it helps any.

    i was not fully awake, so i didnt try doing much except resuming from where i left off in the recording after the test. in hindisght i should have checked to see if i could go back and re-watch the alert or if it disabled the buffer too.... i have no idea, i was too out of it.
     
  2. Jan 3, 2007 #2 of 23
    hookbill

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    I was watching a recording the other day when the cable company pumped out an amber alert and the same thing happened, it jumped to live.

    Now I believe when I had the SA 8300 those alerts would come through while you were watching your recording. You would still see them, it just didn't jump you into live mode. It's no big deal as far as I'm concerned.
     
  3. Jan 3, 2007 #3 of 23
    dig_duggler

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    I've seen the same thing, but I've only caught the end of it. I've just had to hit clear to exit.
     
  4. Jan 3, 2007 #4 of 23
    JoN8282

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    i would think the reason for the live tv jump is to ensure no one thinks the message is recorded. it opens up questions as to whether or not the message would be recorded if it happened during a show you were watching.
     
  5. Jan 3, 2007 #5 of 23
    TydalForce

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    that's pretty cool, and in case of a real emergency could save some lives

    However, in this world of recorded television, it might be very useful for them to put a time/date stamp on the broadcasts so we know "hey that's right now!" vs "oh, that was 3 days ago"
     
  6. Jan 3, 2007 #6 of 23
    Boot

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    I don't think it gets recorded. If you see it, it's because it's happening right now and TiVo bumped you out to live TV.
     
  7. Jan 3, 2007 #7 of 23
    LargoFloridaBHN

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    I had my first experience with the series3 emergency broadcast feature last night and was THRILLED to discover that it was SILENT!

    The single most detestable feature of the Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR is the ear-shattering audio signal that it generates over and over and over again during an emergency broadcast.
     
  8. Jan 3, 2007 #8 of 23
    mattack

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    With the Amber Alerts, it actually screws up your recording, right -- it changes channels and STOPS the recording -- and doesn't continue the recording after the alert??
     
  9. Jan 3, 2007 #9 of 23
    aaronwt

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    So what happens if you are recording two programs when the alert happens? I hope it doesn't stop recording.
     
  10. Jason

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    When it happened to me about two months ago during an amber alert, both recordings stopped, and they did not automatically resume once the alert was over.
     
  11. Runch Machine

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    That's cool. A couple of years ago I was at someone's house when a bad storm passed through. The TV was on a local channel as we were watching storm coverage. All of a sudden all channels went to a blue screen that said: Please tune to a local channel for a weather alert. This stayed up for a few seconds and then everything reverted to normal. As a Directv subscriber, I was impressed that cable has the ability to do that.

    I mainly use OTA for my TV watching and recording. I wonder if Tivo responds in this way or if there is something similar for OTA channels?
     
  12. aaronwt

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    Well that sucks. I hope this never happens here. I would be very pissed if I missed some recordings because of it.
    I guess this is one thing that you don't have to worry about with DirecTV. If it happens a few times I would have to cancel Comcast and go back to DirecTV. Although I haven't left DirecTV yet.
     
  13. hookbill

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    Well, that explains what happened the other night when I was recording the Bravo Marathon. I didn't put it together until I just read your post but I had a partial on one recording of Friday Night Lights. And the amber alert came on just about the time that show was recording.

    Thanks much for your post, I'll be aware of that if it happens again. That really sucks.
     
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    Opie and Anthony had a great rant on the EBS yesterday.

    They noted that on 9/11, not a single EBS broadcast was made. If THAT wasn't an emergency, what would qualify???
     
  15. JoN8282

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    this was a great rant.... o and a party rock!
     
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    In case anyone is wondering what this looks like:

    [​IMG]

    This happened to me a few weeks ago. I turned on my TV and found that crawl and had no idea how long it had been up there.
     
  17. maharg18

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    It's called EAS (emergency alert system)!!! The EBS (emergency broadcast system) went away over 10 years ago!!
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    Does anyone know? Making an inference from windracer's image (post #16), it looks like a "Broadcast Station or Cable System" can initiate the EAS.

    If the OP had pressed Clear, could he or she have returned to the recording then?
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Alert_System

    The Emergency Alert System (EAS), is a national system in the U.S. put into place in 1994, superseding the Emergency Broadcast System and is jointly administered by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), FEMA, and the National Weather Service. The official EAS system is designed to enable the President of the United States to speak to the United States within 10 minutes (this official federal EAS system has never been activated). Voluntary EAS systems at the state and local level also exist. The EAS covers both AM/FM/ACSSB(R)(LM(R)) radio and VHF Low/VHF Medium/VHF High/UHF/television (including low-power stations),HRC/IRC/STD/EIA cable television and wireless cable television companies. Digital television, digital cable, XM Satellite Radio, Sirius Satellite Radio, Grendade, Worldspace, IBOC, DAB and digital radio broadcasters will be required to participate in EAS beginning December 31, 2006. DIRECTV, Dish Network, and any other Direct Broadcast Satellite providers will be required to participate beginning May 31, 2007. Video Dial Tone (OVS) will be required to participate beginning July 1, 2007.

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    (Knowing that now, it wouldn't surprise me that that is the real reason we recently got a software upgrade on the HR10-250. :))
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Alert_System

    Several state officials including New York Governor George Pataki, former New York City Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and U.S. Congressmen and Senators have questioned members of the FCC on why the Emergency Alert System was not implemented nationwide on radio and television stations during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks where official government information is/was supposed to be distributed in place of local/network programming or newscasts. The EAS was to have issued such messages that the United States was under attack, but no warning broadcast was issued, even in New York City.

    On February 1, 2005 at 2:10 pm Eastern Standard Time an employee within the Connecticut Office of Emergency Management inadvertently activated an EAS message over radio and television stations telling residents to evacuate the state immediately. At 3:45 pm officials at the OEM announced that the activation and broadcast of the Emergency Alert System was in error due to the fact that the button used to conduct weekly EAS tests is located next to a button that is used to issue an emergency alert to evacuate the state. In addition to questioning how the mistake happened, some concern was raised at the fact that almost no one seemed to take the evacuation order seriously, even before it was rescinded.
     

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