Emergence - Season Thread *spoilers*

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  1. Cainebj

    Cainebj Well-Known Member

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    That is the funniest thing I have seen today - I was just talking about how we passed Blade Runner time this month...
     
  2. Steveknj

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    Unfortunately I feel the shark is starting to swim up stream on this series, ready to be jumped. This past episode is beginning to make me feel that wey. The crazy lady decides to make a girl just so she can have a daughter to love? Seriously? There are so many better ways they could take this. I'm in, but it's starting to lose me.
     
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  3. Amnesia

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    I haven't seen any discussion of the fall finale... such a major revelation....which doesn't really seem to make sense in terms of what we know about the show...
     
  4. jamesbobo

    jamesbobo with a grain of salt

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    I don't even remember the fall finale. I guess tonight's episode will have to jog my memory.
     
  5. Amnesia

    Amnesia The Question

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    Um, Benny's a robot...
     
  6. jamesbobo

    jamesbobo with a grain of salt

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    Actually, I came back here to say I read the recap of the last episode and now I remember. If I didn't do that, I'd be asking "who's Benny?" Now that I think of it, I can't tell you the name of a single character on the show. And I've seen every episode.
     
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  7. Howie

    Howie Out of Pocket TCF Club

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    I can see the guy, but I didn't remember his name was Benny. Or even that he was a robot, until this thread reminded me of it.
     
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  8. Amnesia

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    Seeing him be all glowy reminded me that I have a hard time with the doctor giving Piper various tests, yet missing the purple circuits or whatever. That doesn't make much sense.

    It's like the Cylons passing for human, but also having spines that glowed during sex.
     
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  9. ej42137

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    It is uncommon to have sex during a medical examination, unless it is conducted by Dr. Masters or Dr. Kinsey.
     
  10. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    But spines that glow during sex are necessarily different from human spines, and thus should be easy to detect with a pretty basic medical examination.

    Same thing with skin and bones that can break steel, arms that can be connected to computer systems, etc. etc. etc.
     
  11. ej42137

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    In both cited cases the androids were constructed with the specific purpose of mimicking humans. When the glow function was inactive (in each case), exactly what would the examiner discern as unusual? I suggest that, in story, the mimicry was successful to the extent required for the required plot points.
     
  12. Rob Helmerichs

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    But spines that glow are not the same as spines that do not. All you have to do is look for what makes the spine glow to determine that they're not human. All you have to do is test whether their skin and bones are stronger than steel. All you have to do is look for networking cables in their arms.

    And yes, they did it solely to further the plot without any regard for whether it made a lick of sense. Just as they always did. Which is what made BG such crappy science fiction.
     
  13. ej42137

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    Exactly how is a spine that glows visibly different from a normal spine? If the reason it glows is an internal light source, no visible difference would be seen with a non-invasive test. An Alzheimer's brain is different from a normal brain; yet for a long time the only way to identify one was to wait for the patient to die and saw open the brain case.

    I have never had my doctor determine the force necessary to break my bones. I'm sure I would remember if she did. (I admit she is endlessly testing my skin's resistance to penetration, however.)

    Jeez, we were having such a nice argument and you have to say something I completely agree with.
     
  14. Rob Helmerichs

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    X-Ray, CAT-scan, etc. The very structure of the spine would have to be different in order to allow the glowing.

    The fact that they had Spylons who could do things impossible with normal human anatomy, yet were medically indistinguishable from humans, was an early indication of the sheer contempt the show's makers had for science. And for us, the viewers.
     
  15. jamesbobo

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    The most surprising thing about the new episode? That even though they just returned from winter break, there are only 2 more shows left in the season.
     
  16. NorthAlabama

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    i believe they said 2 more shows until the season finale, but that still means only 13 total for season one, but that's ok - last night was really good, i'll be back for season 2.
     
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  17. ej42137

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    X-rays and CAT scans aren't taken in a general exam; they are done to diagnose specific conditions, such as broken bones.

    One the other hand, I must admit that "Emergence" is absurd in that current technology is very far from producing life-like simulacra that could fool even a casual observer. This would be the "one impossible" that is allowed in a science fiction story, if that weren't already used up by the main plot, the emergence of an AI.

    Glowing spines, on the other hand, I have little problem with because there is no explanation why they glow; BG has a supernatural component, so if the spines are glowing by "psychic energy", I wouldn't have a problem with doctors not spotting the difference because that would just be magic. I would have a problem if there were glow tubes in the spine, but that wasn't given as the explanation. In-story, the premise is that Cylons are indistinguishable from humans; without that there is no story.
     

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