EFF Article on 'Who Killed Tivo To Go'.

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by kjmcdonald, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. jjarmoc

    jjarmoc New Member

    Sep 14, 2006


    Well, I had a letter in the mailbox today from the FCC. Thing is, it's just some old press clippings from May of 1999.

    Seriously, 1999? Like nothing has changed in the past 8 years? It even has all kinds of forward-looking backward-looking statements about an upcoming review in 2000.

    Sheeshhhh... no woner we're in the quagmire we're in. If they're sending out eight year old press clippings to concerned citizens, I have little hope of anything good ever coming out of the FCC.
  2. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

    May 10, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    It is crystal clear to me from the very informative video that the MRV and TTG are "Under Development" and will be released on the Series3 later this year. TiVo focused on creating a solid hardware platform and is adding features to the Platform this year. They are waiting on CableLabs for certification of the eSATA port. There may be a difference in behavior between content from the CableCards and content received over the air.

    Thanks for the link!
  3. saberman

    saberman Member

    May 4, 2004
    I suggest you listen again. The Series3 HD is a completely new platform. The software to support TiVo to Go and GoBack are underdevelopment.

    They could release GoBack today and the the CableLabs couldn't care less because it is bringing content into the TiVo not out. The reason they haven't is they don't have it working. The same is true of viewing a Series2 show on a Series3. Again, CableLabs couldn't care less. The error message you saw is because they can't handle the transfer. If you have a video file on your PC and a Series2 TiVo does like the file format you get a not found message. The access denied is the equivalent. They don't have the support in the box to handle the transfer. BTW, a number of folks with Series3 HD have said they enabled transfers on TiVocentral web site and they just get the access denied message.

    Like I said above, listen to the message again. The Series3 HD is a new platform and TiVo is still developing the box to box communications.
  4. blakewhitaker

    blakewhitaker New Member

    Oct 20, 2004
  5. Monty2_2001

    Monty2_2001 New Member

    Aug 5, 2005


    I just got some FCC letter in the mail with a lot of legalize about STB's and cable cards and so on. I assume, due to me signing on this petitition. Anyone else get this???
  6. trafeng

    trafeng New Member

    Aug 3, 2002
  7. tjkc

    tjkc New Member

    Oct 30, 2004
    New York
  8. Fourthman

    Fourthman New Member

    Jun 17, 2005
  9. mr.cello

    mr.cello Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    I got something like this too - I also assumed it was related to the petition.
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    HORUS New Member

    Jan 14, 2007
    Is Hook still around?
  11. shaggy314

    shaggy314 Member

    Feb 18, 2007
    Blue county...
    Somebody posted that he was banned or something (do a search, I cannot remember when).

    What does CableLabs have to do with MY S3? I have no cablecards in it. I get the OTA HD via antenna and analog cable over cable. Why does CableVision control my private end user content for TTG when I'm not using their cards and the only change is the model of TiVo.
  12. blakewhitaker

    blakewhitaker New Member

    Oct 20, 2004
    I agree. I would live it if TIVO sent an update that allowed you to have ALL the features as long as the Cable Card function was inactive or disabled. I have no intention of using a Cable Card and would love it if I could use my Series 3 with over the air High Def (The only way I will ever get it) and pass shows back and forth like the other 3 TIVO's in my house can. I already pay too much for TV service, not going to pay even more for multiple showings of movies I never intend to watch. :)
  13. sheldondav

    sheldondav New Member

    Nov 6, 2002
    Raleigh, NC
    Here is the response I got back from CableLabs regarding the S3 and TivoToGo:

    "CableLabs is currently working with Tivo to review technology that would enable certain secure home networking features. In the interim, Tivo chose not to include such features in the Tivo Series3 DVR. Tivo2Go was NOT one of the technologies submitted to CableLabs for review."

    To me at least, it seems that TIVO dropped the ball. :confused:
  14. shady

    shady Previously European TCF Club

    May 31, 2002
    It depends. Had TiVo submitted TiVo2Go to Cablelabs at that time, it may have taken cablelabs another year to certify it - or they may have refused to certify the S3 altogether, in which case TiVo would have had to go through the whole process again!

    It seems like TiVo did the smart thing.
  15. Zcar78

    Zcar78 New Member

    Jul 30, 2002
  16. TexasGrillChef

    TexasGrillChef New Member

    Sep 15, 2006
    I say be patient everyone.

    eSATA is now enabled and working. For the most part, even though it isn't officially supported yet.

    Interesting though how as soon as Cablelabs one hears that they approved external storage for everyone in general, how soon after that S3 Tivos started to work with eSATA.

    Almost as though it was ALLREADY working, but just needed to be enabled. I think many other features that are Cablelabe controlled might also be that way too. Once we get apporval from them they will work.

    As far as features go that don't need their approval? I think that is honestly a TIVO developement issue.

    So in the mean time I wait patiently. The unit hasn't even been out for a full year yet. Give em some time to figure it out!



    In the last year we have manged to obtain a few new features

    Amazon Unbox (Yeah it isn't great but it is a start)
    and Home movie capability through an internet source.

    Not bad I would say for 9 months so far.
  17. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

    Mar 3, 2002
    As an update - in working on the TiVo HD review, TiVo told me they intend to enable TTG/MRV before the end of the year.
  18. ThreeSoFar

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

    May 24, 2002
    Thanks for passing that on.

    Forgive me if I don't believe it until I see it. It is TIVO after all.
  19. saberman

    saberman Member

    May 4, 2004
    Would you like to buy a bridge from me? It already has tollbooths installed. I'll give you a quit claim deed. Just repond with your credit card number, expiration date and security code (the three or four numbers on the back). I'll take care of everything.
  20. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

    Mar 3, 2002
    And what will you give me if they deliver? ;-)

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