Easier to use pyTivo

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Dan203, Jan 23, 2017.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    There is an icon in the tray. You have to right click it and select exit pytivo
     
  2. ken_man

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    Thanks so much Dan! Everything is working great.
     
  3. ADG

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    Thanks very much :)
     
  4. Sparky1234

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    Thanks Dan!
     
  5. andrew1883

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    When I launch pyTivo Desktop I get an error "Verify pyTivo is running and retry" but I can't find any way to get pyTivo running. I'm sure this is an incredibly rookie question but I haven't done this for almost a year and I don't recall. I did reboot (Windows 10) hoping that would cause something to start up, but it didn't work. How do I get pyTivo running?

    This must have happened recently because I do have a recent downloaded .ts file, dated Dec 22/19 I have "A Charlie Brown Christmas ... (^258_0).ts" so it must have been working on Dec 22. As I recall, this means 258 errors on pass 0? Last year I bought NetLimiter to throttle the transfer and reduce errors, as I recall the issue was likely the TiVo Premiere not being able to keep up and not being able to slow the transfer. This year I have a new TiVo BOLT VOX+ instead, and anticipated it would be faster and able to keep up. Do I in fact need to use NL again with the newer TiVo box, or is there something else I can do? I think the TiVo is wired to the router and notebook is definitely wireless.

    Thanks.
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  6. Dan203

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    You have to launch the pyTivo Tray. Basically it's 3 parts. The tray runs in the tray and spawns the pyTivo service. The Desktop app then talks to the pyTivo service via http like a website. (It's basically just a fancy website)
     
  7. andrew1883

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    Thank you. But where do I find pyTivo Tray? It's not in the tray, and not in the Start menu (Windows 10). I've rebooted at least once since I started having this problem, so it presumably doesn't start on bootup. Do I need to uninstall and reinstall pyTivo? Would prefer not if I don't have to.

    =aw
     
  8. KevTech

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    Should have these in your start menu.

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    You want to click on the pytivo shortcut that is highlighted in the picture.
    Once that is running you can open pytivo desktop.
     
  9. andrew1883

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    Thank you, I'm feeling better because that's where I was looking. But not better because here's what I've got (sorry about size). Is there some way to return the missing item to the menu? [added: I've added a tile for pyTivo in the main Start menu, but can't find any way to edit this list]

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    Thanks.
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  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Weird. I'd reinstall. Your antivirus might have blocked something
     
  11. KevTech

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    The shortcut says Pytivo but the target is pyTivoTray.exe so create a shortcut for PyTivoTray.

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  12. andrew1883

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    Thank you both. I did find some info on customizing Start menu (what a mess) and I was able to add an item (though I think I have to reboot to reload Start menu and I can't because I'm actually downloading a recording! :). The page that had some info on editing the "middle" Start window (not the tiles to the right and not the categories to the left) was here How to add Files and Folders to Windows 10’s Start Menu

    I did launch pyTivo.exe so I've got a console window open, but I'll try pyTivoTray in the morning when I can reboot to test.

    Thanks again.
    =aw
     
  13. jgrub

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    Hi Dan. I'm running 2017 iMac w/MacOS 10.15.2. pyTivo crashes during use (e.g., transferring a video from the iMac to a TiVo Bolt+ the transfer stops prior to completion).

    It also seems to lock up/slow down the computer randomly, including connecting to the internet. If I disable pyTivo I have my computer back to full speed... but of course I cannot transfer TiVo<->iMac.

    Apple's Activity Monitor shows multiple iterations of pyTivo and pyTiVo Tray(one not running). Restarting gets repeat result.
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    Any ideas?
    Thanks
     
  14. jgrub

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    Update: Downloaded new copy, installed, seemed to work for a few minutes with two pyTiVo trays running, then one switched to "(Not Responding)". Transferring a movie now.
     
  15. Dan203

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    There are always two listed in task manager. It's a byproduct of the way pyinstaller works. Runs once to extract and cleanup and the other one is the actual code.
     
  16. jgrub

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    Thanks Dan.
    BTW: I queued up three .mkv movies to transfer, only the last appeared on TiVo. I'll try one at a time today.
     
  17. Dan203

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    There is a log in the About dialog you can look at to see why it might have failed. But it can be a lot to wade through to find what you're looking for. If you need help let me know
     
  18. jakryk

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    So frustrated. I have a new computer. Never could get it to work on my old computer. Downloaded the latest pyTiVo. It recognizes my TiVo. It shows all the shows in My Shows. I try to download a show. As it downloads there is a message that there are ts errors and a bunch of packets are affected. The file is in the destination folder. The file size looks about rightl When I try to play it on Windows Media Player I get this message:
    "Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file."

    This happens every time. I am by no means a computer expert. I just want to download a few shows.
     
  19. KevTech

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    Try selecting PS instead of TS on transfer format.

    Another option is on the TivoToGo tab if you set transfer format to "Allow me to select per-recording" you can have a choice of TS or PS on my shows tab.

    Then you can select what format you want to download as.

    Make sure you have "Decrypt with tivo-libre" selected on TivoToGo options.

    Example:

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  20. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Two different issues....

    1) To play in WMP you have to check the box in the installer to install the TiVo DirectShow filter. I don’t actually have the legal right to distribute that file, so I'm flying on a wing and a prayer there, so I leave that box unchecked by default.

    2) The TS errors are coming from the TiVo itself. There is NOTHING I can do to fix it. Some people have found that throttling the network and downloading at slower speeds help, but even that’s not 100%. No one, as far as I know, has figured out the magic bullet. The reason I detect report them is so you're aware they're there. (previously you just never knew) I also have a feature built in that will retry when these errors are detected because sometimes if you keep retrying you can get a clean download, or at the very least one with less errors. I typically have mine set to retry 5 times and to keep the one with the least errors. In my experience I usually get a copy with at least less errors than the first try. But not always. And the weird thing is that the errors that do occur are almost always in the same spot.

    Given that currently this functionality doesn’t work at all on the new Edge and the official TiVo Desktop has been dead for like 8 years now I doubt TiVo is going to put any effort into fixing this.

    if your cable company uses MPEG-2 you can use the PS option instead and it will not have this issue. However PS files have issues with closed captioning so if that's important to you then it could be a different issue. Also PS files download at about 1/2 the speed. Although that's still faster then doing 5+ retries on the TS trying to get a clean copy.
     

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