Easier to use pyTivo - pyTivo Desktop

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  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Just a heads up. I'm transferring the domain to a new server. There may be a minor outage as all the DNS stuff gets updated and moved over

    Edit: Transfer complete. Could still be some minor connection issues for some people as the DNS stuff propagates across the web. But most should be good to go
     
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    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Just an FYI.... I added a script to the website that will log downloads. So rather then the links being direct to the exe/dmg files they now link to a PHP which logs the download and then forwards you to the file. I just want to have an idea of how many people are downloading the software. The old server let me see stats on every file, so I could get an idea from how many times the exe/dmg files were downloaded, but the new one only shows page hit stats and only seems to monitor html pages.

    I tested it pretty extensively and it seems to work, but if anyone has any trouble downloading please let me know ASAP.

    Also I noticed that Chrome hangs for a long time at the end of downloading the Windows exe file. (with or without the log script) I did some research and this is because the exe is not signed so Chrome is scanning it for malware/viruses. There doesn't seem to be anything I can do to help this other then buying a certificate, which is really expensive. Sorry. FireFox and Edge don't seem to have this issue, but since Chrome is the most commonly used browser I figured I'd mention it. If you just leave it alone it'll eventually finish and release the download as safe.
     
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    Wow this has turned out to be WAY more popular than I thought. I'm averaging 25 unique downloads a day. I didn't even realize that there were that many TiVo users left.
     
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  4. Sparky1234

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    I use it everyday. Thanks for your efforts Dan!
     
  5. SamD

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    Please someone explain how can I push downloaded to PC tivo file to Bolt.
    I have two Bolts and would like to use pyTiVo for transferring some recording from one Bolt to another because
    infamous Hydra breaks transferred files and they are freezing on playback.
    I'd also like to keep subtitles with uploaded files.
    Have no problem with downloading but cannot understand how creating share may help with uploading.
    Note that both my Bolts have Hydra, this serpent-like monster...
    Maybe I need to downgrade the second Bolt to TE3... but as far as I understand that means to lose all existing recordings... and I'm not sure if files on downgraded to TE3 Tivo will be playable remotely from the Hydra Bolt.
     
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  6. ThAbtO

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    Hydra broke transfer PC-to-Tivo. If you downgrade, you will lose all stored on that Tivo, unless its transferred prior to downgrade.

    TE3, v20.7+ can still do PC-to-tivo and Tivo-to-PC.
    The dreaded TE4, v21.7+ can't do PC-to-tivo.
     
  7. Mikeguy

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    And so, what you would need to do is: use pyTivo Desktop (or other, such as pyTivo, kmttg, or TiVo Desktop) to copy your shows on one of your TE4 boxes to your PC; sidegrade that box to TE3 (in the course of which you'll lose the shows on the box); and then use pyTivo Desktop (or pyTivo) to copy the shows copied earlier to your PC back to the sidegraded TiVo box. You should use TS mode on pyTivo Desktop, as PS mode may not preserve your subtitles (but note that TS mode may be less reliable).

    I would assume that shows on the TE3 box may be streamed to the TE4 box, but I'll leave that to someone with a TE3/TE4 hybrid system to answer.
     
  8. JoeKustra

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    That's easy and it works on my Roamio based system. You will not get auto-skip just because you are viewing on a TE4 box, but manual skip is fine.
     
  9. SamD

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    Thank you, but would you detail the steps of this "use pyTivo Desktop (or pyTivo) to copy the shows copied earlier to your PC back to the sidegraded TiVo box"?
    OK, I created a shared folder, copied tivo files to this folder.
    What should I do after this with my sidegraded TiVo box? How can I upload files to it?
     
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  10. Mikeguy

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    Now, with pyTivo Desktop/pyTivo up and running on your PC, go to your TiVo box's My Shows list and towards the bottom (or use the left-hand column Devices shortcut), you should see the folder set for sharing shows from your PC to your TiVo box (if you need to change the location, it's set in pyTivo Desktop under the "Share Videos, Music & Photos" tab--click on the folder to edit it)--select that folder and you will see the shows stored on your PC, which you then can transfer (copy) over under the menu. Voila!
     
  11. SamD

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    Sorry, do you mean I can initiate transfer using TiVo menu? This new menu will appear when I select shared folder on TV screen?
    Please bear with me, I was using TiVo for years but never suspected existence of this ability. Maybe I'll need to click of the file I want to transfer?
     
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  12. Mikeguy

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    It's a nice feature. :) Dang TiVo for not having continued it with TE4 (a major reason I'm still on TE3).*

    Under your TiVo box My Shows list (or through using the My Shows Devices shortcut), select the share folder (the PC folder set under pyTivo Desktop/pyTivo as the source for shows that the TiVo box should look at). You then will have a list of the shows on your PC, in that folder. Select a show. You then will have a TiVo show listing for the show, with a menu option on that screen to transfer the show from your PC to your TiVo box, which you would select. :) Sorry if I confused matters by collapsing the directions at the end, earlier.

    * There's a small (but probably unlikely) chance it could be brought to TE4.
     
  13. SamD

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    OK, will try it soon.
     
  14. Mikeguy

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    It will be pretty apparent when you do it--it's the basic way you use your TiVo box.
     
  15. Dan203

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    Before jumping in to this there are a few considerations....

    1) Transferring all the shows on your TiVo to a PC and then back is going to take a significant amount of time. You can download in bulk, but when transferring back you have to select every show, one by one, using the remote and transfer. Occasionally the TiVo will also stall when doing these types of transfers requiring you to reboot the TiVo and re-queue all the shows that didn't complete. It can be a real PITA.

    2) You lose certain data when transferring to a PC. When returning the shows to the TiVo you will no longer have skip mode on any of them. Some will also fail to group, so you may end up with a bunch of shows for a single series that are ungrouped and taking up space on your My Shows list.

    3) When you transfer shows to a PC there is a known bug that can introduce errors into the file. There is a feature in pyTivo Desktop that can minimize these errors but it can't always avoid them completely, so some of your shows may have glitches in them which could potentially prevent them from transferring back to your TiVo at all.

    Personally I'm not sure it's really worth the effort unless you really plan to use this feature a lot. One alternative you can use is you can use Plex in the new TE4 UI to stream videos from your PC to your TiVo instead of transferring them. Plex works relatively well for most stuff once you get the hang of it.
     
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    One more thing I forgot... some shows may not be capable of being transferred. Depending on how the copy protection bit is set certain shows are blocked from being transferred. Some cable companies, like Spectrum in old Time Warner areas, block everything. Most others block the premium channels. And a few have weird deals where the do stuff like block all Fox owned channels.
     
  17. Bane7

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    My Roamio is not seeing my PC running pyTivo Desktop, but Desktop is seeing my tivo and is able to download shows. Weird thing si it shows the music share that I setup. Any troubleshooting suggestions? I am not on Hydra..
     
  18. Dan203

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    First step reboot everything.

    If that doesn't work try disabling zero conf in pyTivo and see if that helps.

    If that still doesn’t work it's probably the firewall on your PC. Try temporarily disabling it and see if the share shows up. If it does then you'll have to go through the process of adding exceptions for pyTivo to whatever firewall you're using. (varies by software and can be a PITA to set up)
     
  19. Bane7

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    I disabled zero conf, and afterward pytivo desktop says "no tivos found!". The firewall on my computer is completely disabled. I am also getting a popup when saving pytivo desktop config for cmd.exe - application error.
     
  20. Dan203

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    ZeroConf is basically just enabling disabling Bonjour, leaving only the old TiVo discovery protocol. If it doesn’t find your TiVos after you disable it then turn it back on.

    Not sure about the cmd.exe error. It might be your antivirus software. You might want to try uninstalling, disable antivirus, reinstall, then before enabling antivirus add an exception so it ignores the pyTivo install directory.
     

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