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Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by incog-neato, Nov 8, 2007.
if we had more than 150 sig characters, i may have to make that a quote
New math: 2007-1994=17
Seriously, check with your cable company or FIOS if available. Most cable companies will buy you out of any commitment you have left with either Dish or DirecTV if you commit to their triple play pack. I get flyers in the mail all the time for "we'll pay off your termination fee up to $400 and even take the dish down for you if you switch".
Honestly, if you want to switch you may be able to do so at little cost to yourself even if you do have commitment time left.
Listen, if I was getting bent over I would be gone. I just dumped a cell phone company because I was unhappy. My new cell phone provider happily paid the $50 left on my commitment.
1) I get the programming I want at a better price then any other options I have (Dish or cable).
2) I have an HD-DVR that records all my programs flawlessly and has done so for over a year. I have 2 DirecTivos that also record all my programs.
3) I get more HD then any other option I have (goes back to point #1 about programming).
4) Sunday Ticket. And even taking Sunday Ticket out of the equation see point #1 and 3 above.
Sign me up for a 5 year commitment for all I care as long as the above variables stay in place. Charter and Dish aren't going to beat any of these any time soon. At this point I only have about 7 months left on my commitment as it is cause I got in early.
I don't see how I'm getting bent over here. Is it so hard to understand that *some* people just might be happy with the service and programming they are getting?
Maybe you and other feels like you are getting bent over. If so then leave or plan to leave. I don't understand why people stick around when they are unhappy.
Hey, as I posted before, I totally agree with most of your points. I don't really like commitment either but I don't have a problem with it if my service and programming is fine (see my post above). But it is what it is. If the DirecTV commitment is so bad and evil for you then switch which it sounds like you did. Good for you! Be happy, seriously. Others should follow your lead if they aren't happy. DirecTV is signing up quarter million new subs a quarter. So most people obviously don't care about the commitment. For those that do, go somewhere else if you find a provider with no commitment. I still don't get why people put up with stuff that gives them so much grief. Take some stress out of your life and enjoy.
Which brings up a question. Is there a site or sites where cable customers talk and complain about the ins and outs of their providers' programming and hardware. Insight is the only cable option here and they SUCK!!!
www.broadbandreports.com has forums for most major cable providers.
I'm not a fan of the commitment either but you really do have a simple choice. If you're not willing to make the commitment and accept the fee then don't take the discounted unit.
The ETF never crosses my mind when I make a deal, I fully expect to be around for 2 years plus the prorating makes it much less of an issue. I do appreciate that there is no practical way to "try" a DVR without committing but there are plenty of other products like that in the world.
It'd be one thing if you were actually buying something; but now you also have to send the equipment back.
If you leave DirecTv the equipment is a boat anchor. Why do you want to own it?
You are no doubt correct but I have no intention of leaving
Sell it to recoup intial payout.
As NatasNJ said... sell it to someone wanting it for DirecTV; maybe even just pull out the hard drive and throw the rest away. Perhaps I just want to videotape dropping it from the top of a 12-story building. Or I just want to stick it in the closet and maybe one day I come back to DirecTV I'll already have my own equipment and not have to buy, er, uh, lease, it again.
Pay the full $799 and you can do any of those things
Yea, but on about anything else like that you could sell it can try to break even. Here I'm not so sure if you would recover the cost and the current round of buggy software sure won't help any possible buyer be a happy camper right off, unless perhaps they happened to be a hardcore Tivo guy.
dswallow +1 on all your comments
Maybe so but I have an owned HR10 sitting in my garage because the resale value isn't worth the effort.
Boy, you totally summed it up.
I got on DTV *because* of Tivo in the first place.
But the company has turned into the same kind of monster that made me want to get away from cable TV. Same deal with Sprint, I signed up with them about a decade ago because they cut through all the BS and had an upfront service plan with no hidden fees, no gotchas and no screwball "commitment" schemes. I wouldn't touch Sprint/Nextel with a ten foot ball point that signed contracts in disappearing ink.
The cable company is actually WAY more friendly than D* is now. But there's still a lot of static when you want to do your own thing and go with the cable-cards rather than lease their one-size-fits-all box. My neighborhood (smack center of Silicon Valley no less) has very poor cable TV service. Just barely digital after all these years.
The one infuriating thing dealing with D* is the completely schizophrenic reactions from first tier and second tier and retention departments. On the one hand, *they* called and offered the free upgrade to another guy in my office, and just kept saying, no, no, no to me. Called back on the next day to express customer service number, used the PIN they gave me, got through quickly and they easily agreed to what I asked for in the first place, not so much as a maybe. Just "yes and thank you for calling."
Heck, they could have just emailed me the offer in my DTV online and saved the phone games.
So I've just decided to hold my nose, give D* a shot with the HR20. I have a bad taste in my mouth from paying $900 for the HR10 out of my own pocket and having it be obsoleted so quickly. After a couple of tries, D* is putting in a 5 lnb at no cost, and I was able to go buy the specific receiver I wanted at Costco and get most of that cost applied to my account. They offered to send me a HD DVR for free, but wanted to make sure I got the OTA tuner. The HD channel line up and the concession tipped the scale for D*, but I was on the verge of canceling service.
My now restored HR10 I guess will go in the bedroom and the Series 2 DTivo will go on eBay.
I'm fortunate enough that if they really tick me off, I can eat the cancellation fee and chalk it up to "money paid to not be pissed-off any longer". I can sure see how the threat of that hangs over the average consumer who has a tough time paying all their bills.
I'll admit up front, I'm DirecTV's *****. I've had service since 1994, when I bought my first system (single receiver, dual LNB dish) for $1299, plus $250 installation. I'd previously had snowy reception on the "big 3" networks only, so I was thrilled!
Now, I have an HR20 and an HR10, as well as eight SD receivers on my account. I haven't been in the HR20 world for long, so I think I was spared a lot of the early software releases that were so bad.
In my area, there is no alternative that can offer me anywhere near what DirecTV does in terms of HD. It's not even close. I can't get FiOS, and my cable company's offerings are, frankly, laughable. I suppose Dish could be an option, but I personally would have to invest a huge amount of money to duplicate my current setup.
So, for myself, and many others, it's hard to get too worked up about ETFs, because there's not a great chance of ET. I realize I am a WAY atypical case, but still. DirecTV has had their ups and downs, but they do still get it done for a lot of us.
"Can't we all just get along"?
what a bunch of whiners. I miss the technical discussions for sure.