Early holdouts -- What will it take for you to upgrade?

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by abovethesink, Sep 30, 2015.

  1. Oct 3, 2015 #101 of 232
    HarperVision

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    Yeah that makes sense now at you guys explain the process more. It's been awhile since I messed with these things and there's so many new codecs and processes since I did. Plus my old Lyme infested brain doesn't process this stuff the same way anymore. :(
     
  2. Oct 3, 2015 #102 of 232
    aaronwt

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    I don't see why. You can still by 720P TVs. I don't think 1080P TVs will disappear that quickly.

    I just wish the larger UHD TVs would quickly come down in price. I can't go to a smaller size in my main setup so the absolute smallest UHD TV I would get would be 84". And right now those sizes are still very high in cost. Ideally I would like a 90" set. If I could go to projection I would. But no projector out there is quiet enough to be mounted above my head, without me going crazy from the noise.
     
  3. Oct 3, 2015 #103 of 232
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    1. Bigger default hard drive. 500GB today is ridiculous, and only having a 1GB option (and having it cost $100 for that extra 500GB) is even more so. It should start at least at 1TB (and really 2TB) and have a 3TB option.

    2. Stop trying to hide the service cost in the price. I don't want to pay for a year, I want lifetime from the beginning. This was the boneheadiest of the boneheaded decisions made on this product. Oh, and bring MSD back.

    3. Six tuners. There's no reason to penalize antenna-only people.

    I'm still on an old Series 3, because every time Tivo has come out with a new model, the important things have been WORSE, not better. Weaker tuners, more expensive, no real progress in hard drives in seven years. (The base offering is just twice what it was seven years ago. Twice? It should be ten times.)
     
  4. Oct 3, 2015 #104 of 232
    6tunersorbust

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    1. Bigger default hard drive. 500GB today is ridiculous, and only having a 1GB option (and having it cost $100 for that extra 500GB) is even more so. It should start at least at 1TB (and really 2TB) and have a 3TB option.

    2. Stop trying to hide the service cost in the price. I don't want to pay for a year, I want lifetime from the beginning. This was the boneheadiest of the boneheaded decisions made on this product. Oh, and bring MSD back.

    3. Six tuners. There's no reason to penalize antenna-only people.

    I'm still on an old Series 3, because every time Tivo has come out with a new model, the important things have been WORSE, not better. Weaker tuners, more expensive, no real progress in hard drives in seven years. (The base offering is just twice what it was seven years ago. Twice? It should be ten times.)
     
  5. Oct 3, 2015 #105 of 232
    Bigg

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    Antenna-only people don't watch a lot of TV in the first place, and only have basically 5 channels to record from, so there is no reason for them to have 6 tuners. Cable and FIOS customers with 100+ HD channels have a good reason to have that many.
     
  6. Oct 3, 2015 #106 of 232
    aaronwt

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    Weaker tuners. My 2006 S3 boxes picked up the same channels as my 2004 DirecTV HD TiVos. Which picked up the same channels as my 2001 ATSC HiPix cards. And then my Premiere also picks up the same channels and my Roamio Basic picks up the same channels.
     
  7. Oct 3, 2015 #107 of 232
    aaronwt

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    I have dozens of channels/sub-channels to choose from around here. Personally if I only recorded from OTA, I would have conflicts on a daily basis with only four tuners. With no cable I would be recording much, much more from the local stations than I do now.
     
  8. Oct 3, 2015 #108 of 232
    b_scott

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    hey look I was right.
     
  9. Oct 3, 2015 #109 of 232
    krkaufman

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    36 OTA sub-channels of interest in suburban Chicago; just 9 downstate.

    So even the OTA-capable models would benefit from the ability to add a couple additional OTA tuners (via USB or networked), should the built-in 4 tuners not be sufficient for the locale.
     
  10. Oct 4, 2015 #110 of 232
    Bigg

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    The subchannels are mostly just junk. You are a very extreme user. For all practical purposes, there is no reason to have an OTA TiVo with more than 4 tuners.
     
  11. Oct 4, 2015 #111 of 232
    b_scott

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    ^this. aaron is never indicative of an average user. ;)

    I have two 2-tuner premieres and a medium-high cable package and I almost never have a thing I can't record.
     
  12. Oct 4, 2015 #112 of 232
    gespears

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    First, where is all this "Hype" I've been reading about. I may be sheltered, but I didn't see ANY hype. It looks to me like they had a deadline to get out a new product and dumped this thing out primarily to use it as a test bed for the real new products that are coming out in a year or so. And given TiVo's record of letting things go before they are really tested well, this may be a good idea.


    Secondly, regarding my feelings on the Bolt: "Move along folks, there is nothing to see here."
     
  13. Oct 4, 2015 #113 of 232
    foghorn2

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    :eek: I hope they don't make a brown version of the Bolt. I measured that tilt/angle and its exactly the same angle things have in a toilet bowl when longer things don't fit quite right in em. :D

    I also recommend getting one of these to make it look normal:
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  14. Oct 4, 2015 #114 of 232
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    Yes true, but the difference goes way beyond that (and while HEVC's goal is to be able to lower the bitrate by half at the same quality, it isn't there yet...that will take a few years yet)

    Blu Ray can have MPEG4 bit rates of 40 Mbps or higher. Netflix's 4K is about 15 Mbps, which with current quality of HEVC encoders is not much more than half that of Blu Ray.
     
  15. Oct 4, 2015 #115 of 232
    aaronwt

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    My GF is OTA only and uses two, S3(OLED) TiVos. She is using several tuners concurrently to record on a regular basis.

    And then I end up recording a bunch of stuff for her off cable. I just handed her five discs today, with ten Lifetime movies on them that had recorded over the past week.
     
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  16. Oct 4, 2015 #116 of 232
    tomhorsley

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    I was trying to imagine how they could make the case for the "pro" version look even worse when it comes out, and my thought was they could take a casting of a big old elephant dung and use that as a shape for the case, painting it brown.

    Other than that, I haven't come up with any better ideas for making a worse looking case :).
     
  17. Oct 4, 2015 #117 of 232
    JWhites

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    What would it take for me to upgrade? It being given to me free.
     
  18. Oct 4, 2015 #118 of 232
    jonw747

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    As long as there are more than 4 OTA channels, there's is most definitely a purpose to having more than 4 tuners. Maybe not you, maybe not me, but somebody must be watching those channels, don't you think?
     
  19. Oct 4, 2015 #119 of 232
    Bigg

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    Yup! His network is really freaking impressive too. He's got like 50+ devices on it. I only got to 20 or 30 with 3 roommates and all of their crap!

    You two are made for each other. Both TV addicts I see. :D

    Probably not all at once! Heck, most people don't need more than 4 tuners with 100+ HD channels in their cable package. That's actually an interesting point though. It's amazing that someone watches those garbage channels. I wish the networks would all switch back to a single 19mbps channel, as HD would actually look like HD again. The subchannels would, in most cases, be no loss. There is a halfway decent PBS subchannel that my TiVo picks up occasionally, other than that, all of them here are garbage.
     
  20. Oct 4, 2015 #120 of 232
    SC0TLANDF0REVER

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    You almost gave me a heart attack thinking they took this away. They re-named it, it's now called the 'All-In Plan upgrade rate (which currently is $599.99, plus any applicable taxes).'
     

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