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Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by tivoupgrade, Dec 9, 2009.
If I'm lucky that's all the new DTivo will be.
Believe me, if it were that simple, somebody would have done it by now. We are not THAT smart, and we are not THAT well funded...
Just depends how you use the unit. I watch a lot of sports on my HR20 and HR21 and don't have any trick play problems. But then I've always found replay and slo-mo useless as I could care less to do such things when watching a game or multiple games. I don't see the need. But that's just the way I use it. I never watch commercials and don't have an issue with the FFW. Again, just how you use it I guess.
Because to a few it must be "Tivo" with the Tivo UI and nothing else. Not saying that is wrong. But Tivo is banking on people switching but there just aren't that many Tivoites out there to make it a huge success. Their ever shrinking market share shows that. But that doesn't mean they can't make money. If they get even half a million units in service that would be a huge boost to their bottom line. DirecTV themselves would barely notice it since nearly half their 19 million subs have the non Tivo DVR already and over 60% of all new subs get one of their DVRs. Not many are going to pay extra when what they have now is "good enough" for them. But if DirecTV can make some money on it as well, it's all good to them, at least that appears to be what they think right now.
This article pretty much says it all on what Tivo needs to do: http://www.multichannel.com/article/439948-Can_TiVo_Reinvent_Itself_.php
Tivo cannot afford years and years of delays as they have had with Comcast and Cox. But they've already delayed it once and it's pretty much been pushed back again later into 2010 ("spring" now they are saying). If they don't have a working demo unit at CES in a couple weeks I'd be very worried about them getting it out by late 2010. Longer they wait the worse it will be.
I get a kick out of the part "TiVo, which popularized the DVR, has watched its core business die off as cable, satellite and telco providers successfully introduced their own digital video recorders."
They're not talking about DirecTV, as their HD DVRs suck. I have an HDTV, but have a series 1 DirecTivo with a 100GB HD I had upgraded myself. So I still have standard def, and want HD recording ability with DirecTV HD service. But I totally don't want DirecTV's HD DVR offering after reading all the horror stories and reviews of their units. All the lockups and reboots I can do without. I'm still waiting for Tivo's DirecTV HD unit in hopes it'd be more stable than DirecTV's OS. I have more trust in Tivo to do the right thing and fix any mistakes resulting in lockups unlike DirecTVs cure which is just send you another unit with the same problem.
I have both Tivo DVRs and DirecTV HD DVRs, and have had zero problems with either brand. Yes, the user interface is different, but not really that much. You're missing out on lots of great HiDef channels. And it could be another year before we're able to get the promised new HD DirecTivo DVRs.
LOL. Well, 10 million DirecTV customers that have the DirecTV DVR would seem to indicate it was a success. That's 2.5 times more then Tivo had *in total* in it's hayday way back when.
Not sure where you're getting "all the lockups and reboots" reports from. The HR2x's are very stable. They had those problems 3+ years ago. Not anymore. Most complaints now stem from features that people feel are missing or different from Tivo. Not really the stability. Get up to date on your reading. Sure, some people have unstable units. But a quick look at the Tivo HD forums here reveal the same thing about Tivo products so I'm not really sure what that says.
FYI that the Tivo CEO said today that it was due out "late in 2010". I'd probably read that as 2011 at this point.
True. But do you know anyone who willingly forked over 900 bucks for the in house box?
What does that matter? If the DirecTV DVR was so terrible there wouldn't be 10 million people using it. Uptake would have slowed down and people would have been leaving in droves over the past year+.
I guess think of it as Windows. Many people think Windows and Microsoft is crap and Apple is where it is at. But you certainly can't claim that Windows isn't a "success" being that 90%+ of the population use it willingly.
I know people who willingly forked over $800 or so for the HR21-Pro. Otherwise, I have never seen HR2X DVRs selling for $900. Theoretically, it's possible, I suppose. I don't see what this proves, though.
I have both an HR10 and an HR21, and like them both. In no way could I describe the HR21 as "sucks".
Hi. A bit of help and explanation. I have an original TIVO with Lifetime subscription ($200.) We recently switched to HDDirecTV - However we don't actually have HD on the tv where TIVO is connected. When DirectTV was installed I asked the technician about On Demand and he said I need to have internet connected to the DirectTV which he did for me. I am paying for the HD service as we have a TV upstairs that is HD - This ones on the list
Anyway, I see nothing in the menu of DirectTV about ondemand. What am I missing?
Best to start your own new thread. Provide more information ....
* What model DirecTV HD DVR do you have? Only the newer HD DVRs provide internet connectivity for On Demand downloads.
* How is your HD DVR connected to your home network and internet?
I'd also suggestion going over to DBSTalk where the DirecTV DVR experts are. They can walk you thru what you need to check/fix.
You may need to run the network setup from the setup menu to confirm that the network is working. If you have more questions on the HR2x series, I suggest asking them at dbstalk.com.
The TiVo Series2 DT DVR is a standalone box that can record shows from two basic cable channels, or from one basic cable and one digital cable channel, at once. It has built-in Ethernet to support a wired broadband connection to the TiVo service.