DTivo's with SP problem please answer this poll.

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by bengalfreak, Sep 8, 2008.

What version of the software is your problem unit running?

  1. Current software (6.4a)

    43 vote(s)
    20.3%
  2. Something older (6.3x, 6.2a, 6.2, 3.x, etc.)

    169 vote(s)
    79.7%
  1. Sep 10, 2008 #21 of 127
    ruexp67

    ruexp67 New Member

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    Is this a permanent fix? If I go through and redo all my season passes on my 6.2 HDVR2, will it then work indefineatly again?
     
  2. Sep 10, 2008 #22 of 127
    ronsch

    ronsch Active Member

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    So far I've seen no problems with 3.5C but most "new" episodes for old SPs shouldn't start showing up until tonight. My old Terminator/Sarah Conner SP is working fine.
     
  3. Sep 10, 2008 #23 of 127
    DreadPirateRob

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

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    Yeah, I forced a download last night, and I now have 6.4a as well. Not sure if it's going to fix the SP issue, because the few SPs that I have on that box that are mine are still >14 days outs (the other 40+ are kid's shows, and I have no desire to see if they are working fine or not. The To Do List is jammed with those, though).

    Once I determine 6.4a is stable, I'll force a download on my main box, and then I guess I'll know for sure whether it fixes the SP problem.
     
  4. Sep 10, 2008 #24 of 127
    Hichhiker

    Hichhiker Just me.

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    For those who have a hacked box and pre-6.3 software and are comfortable with it, you can try my mod for TivoWebPlus 2.0.0 found here. It should make the task of finding and replacing affected SP's a bit less unpleasant.

    -HH
     
  5. Sep 10, 2008 #25 of 127
    jmayes

    jmayes New Member

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    Ok, after finding almost no recordings on both of my legecy tivos (HDTIVO 3.18f & DTIVO 2.5) I came to the forum to find many of you have the same problem. At first glance it looks like if you did not have the newest software when the new channel id's (and/or show ids) started comming through, you will be effected but an odd foot note I can provide is that even my newest DVR (the Dreaded non-tivo unit) is also is MISSING RECORDINGS and has dead 'series recording' links !! Mainly the big 4 networks so their channel ID swich has even messed up there own unhacked beast. I just hope they don't change any more ID's- or is this designed counter our hacking???:thumbsdown:

    JM
     
  6. Sep 11, 2008 #26 of 127
    dcstager

    dcstager 1st Gen Tivo Owner

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    Skagit...
    I'll bet you thought your last set of season passes never needed to be redone too. What else can you do here? I think the new season pass/guide data is not going to revert. It's obviously tied to the software upgrade (6.4a). The data is different or it's being handled differently. If you want to keep the older software (6.2a) you simply have to bite the bullet and re-create your season passes.

    If you are really worried, make new season passes and keep the old ones too. But I think that's just clutter.
     
  7. Sep 11, 2008 #27 of 127
    bengalfreak

    bengalfreak Active Member

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    As do I.
     
  8. Sep 12, 2008 #28 of 127
    ruexp67

    ruexp67 New Member

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    I was really more worried that they would change the IDs again in a month and I'd be back in the same boat.

    I did recreate all the SPs I could (no guide data yet for some shows.) and I did delete the old ones.
     
  9. Sep 14, 2008 #29 of 127
    dcstager

    dcstager 1st Gen Tivo Owner

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    Skagit...
    I don't want to sound the alarm too much, but just in case, check your season passes again. I've had to re-create season passes I'd already re-created. I have a feeling that the guide data format changes are going to require upgrading to 6.4a and that 6.2a simply will not be able to use, format, or index the new guide data stream. This is really curious what is happening. My 6.2a system is almost continuously indexing and re-indexing if the drive activity is what I think it is. I never heard so much drive activity before and it's the drive activity sound you can hear when the system is re-indexing guide data. My machine is constantly doing it. Has anyone else noticed anything like this?
     
  10. Sep 14, 2008 #30 of 127
    DavePurz

    DavePurz TiVo Enthusiast

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    6.2a on 4 Sammy units -- all we’re affected.

    Here’s the “Search by Title” for a typical show . . .

    There’re 4 entries for Desperate Housewives - they look exactly as follows:
    Desperate Housewives
    Desperate Housewives (7 SF7)
    Desperate Housewives (20 SF20)
    Desperate Housewives (252 LIFE)

    Hope it’s not going to happen again.

    It’s a pain to have to re-enter them all. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
     
  11. Sep 14, 2008 #31 of 127
    kkesler

    kkesler New Member

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    Ditto. The only thing DirecTV is going to force me to do is ugrade is my local cable service and buy a new Tivo HD DVR, then drop DirecTV. It's like I told the DirecTV CSR a while back when I activated an old 704, I'm loyal to Tivo, not DirecTV.
     
  12. Sep 15, 2008 #32 of 127
    bengalfreak

    bengalfreak Active Member

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    Nope, all of the season passes I have recreated are working perfectly. Are you sure that you didn't select the wrong entry in the search by title list when recreating your SP again?
     
  13. Sep 16, 2008 #33 of 127
    codrus

    codrus New Member

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    I saw it on mine -- had to delete/re-create all the season passes. Simply modifying didn't work.

    Series 1 SAT-T60, running 3.5b, so I don't think any 6.x changes would be an issue here?
     
  14. Sep 16, 2008 #34 of 127
    DougF

    DougF Well-Known Member

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    While both my S2 units were affected, my SAT-T60 was not. It has worked perfectly through this crap.
     
  15. Sep 16, 2008 #35 of 127
    Gunnyman

    Gunnyman Just a boring dude

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    6.2a here.
     
  16. Sep 16, 2008 #36 of 127
    dcstager

    dcstager 1st Gen Tivo Owner

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    Skagit...
    No, I'm sure because I deleted all my season passes and re-did them and then checked to make sure they detected the episodes. My present thinking is that the guide data is changing little by little; not all the shows at once and that I re-created a season pass that hadn't changed yet.

    Obviously, something is going on. With all the models that are not compatible with, or can't or are not being updated to 6.4a, a fatal guide data change could be a disaster. It will be interesting to see if we ever find out what the deal is. My machine apparently finished its frantic indexing activity and seems to be quiet now.

    I think we'll have to just keep an eye on this. Who is the person who reported an issue with 6.4a and season passes? There is one response in the poll, but no details in the messages.
     
  17. Sep 16, 2008 #37 of 127
    MBfromMI

    MBfromMI Member

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    same issue here. The initial season passes that I recreated the first time are now unresponsive again. Im not redoing my season passes every 2 weeks. Id sure like to find the logic in whatever they are doing.
     
  18. Sep 18, 2008 #38 of 127
    dcstager

    dcstager 1st Gen Tivo Owner

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    Skagit...
    Will the person who answered the poll who has version 6.4a software and has this same problem please chime in with the details?
     
  19. Sep 19, 2008 #39 of 127
    bengalfreak

    bengalfreak Active Member

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    There are five such persons now.
     
  20. Sep 19, 2008 #40 of 127
    DougF

    DougF Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if those five people are like me and upgraded to 6.4a *after* the problems started. The poll doesn't account for that.

    As we've seen here and I can personally attest to, upgrading afterward didn't fix anything. I'm pretty sure you needed 6.4a already when the new show IDs started coming down.
     

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